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1 | Are those He called always chosen? | Rom 8:30 | EdB | 14131 | ||
Reformer Joe and Morgan61 let me ask some questions. What is accomplished by the two of you going back and forth rehashing the same ground? One makes a point the other tells him he took scripture out of context or didn’t interpret it right, then the other comes back with his points showing where the other did the same. If one or the other could be proven right, assuming your both saved, what would the winner have the loser do different? What would the winner do different? In truth how does this discussion effect eternity? The points you hash and rehash are the standard points of Calvinism and Arminianism, your presenting nothing new. The debate has raged for over 400 years. My question to the both of you to what end? If you really enjoy flogging a dead horse why not give each other your e-mail address and you two can go at each other until you tire or declare a winner (if that happened I would fall over dead :-) ) and give the forum a break. I’m not being mean spirited or at least I not trying, but I have read point and counter point and neither one has convinced the other and I suspect neither ever will. Why not give us all a rest? |
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2 | Are those He called always chosen? | Rom 8:30 | Makarios | 14142 | ||
Dear EdB, I most heartily agree with you! This whole debate needs a long rest.. I greatly respect Tim and his views and his generosity in displaying the "Arminian view" of specific verses. I have truly enjoyed following his study. I also respect Reformer Joe and his arguments, in which I have learnt much, even though I often disagree with Joe's conclusions. However, we have come dangerously close to rehashing this whole debate since both Tim and Joe are replying to each other on specific points (in which anyone could jump into), and I pray that this dialogue would come to a close soon in order to prevent what could be another Arminian Calvinism war on this Forum. I would pray that at least one or more person(s) agrees with us, EdB, that the eruption of another "Calvo-Armi" war would not be healthy at all for the Forum. Your Brother in Christ, Nolan |
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3 | Are those He called always chosen? | Rom 8:30 | Morant61 | 14223 | ||
Greetings Nolan! You know how much I appreciate you as a brother and a friend (even though we haven't had to chance to meet yet). But, I have to mildly disagree with you on this point. I really think that some are being overly sensitive on this issue. Joe and I are not warring (and I know you didn't say we were). In fact, even during the previous debate, I don't recall any hard feelings or harshness (maybe I missed out on that.) My view is simple. 1) Complex issues can't be discussed in a simple fashion. What I mean is, not every issue will be resolved in one or two posts. This one may never be resolved, but it is a good discussion. I know I'm learning from it. 2) Anyone who isn't interested, doesn't have to take part or even read the posts. We are all at different stages in our Christian walks. I know there are some posts that do not interest me in the slightest. I simply pass over them. As long as there is no bickering taking place, I have no problem with a "long" discussion. I also look forward to others adding their comments when they feel they have something to add. Well, I've got to get to bed! I am about to fall aslllllllleeeeeppp! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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