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NASB | Romans 8:30 and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 8:30 And those whom He predestined, He also called; and those whom He called, He also justified [declared free of the guilt of sin]; and those whom He justified, He also glorified [raising them to a heavenly dignity]. |
Subject: Are those He called always chosen? |
Bible Note: Dear EdB, I most heartily agree with you! This whole debate needs a long rest.. I greatly respect Tim and his views and his generosity in displaying the "Arminian view" of specific verses. I have truly enjoyed following his study. I also respect Reformer Joe and his arguments, in which I have learnt much, even though I often disagree with Joe's conclusions. However, we have come dangerously close to rehashing this whole debate since both Tim and Joe are replying to each other on specific points (in which anyone could jump into), and I pray that this dialogue would come to a close soon in order to prevent what could be another Arminian Calvinism war on this Forum. I would pray that at least one or more person(s) agrees with us, EdB, that the eruption of another "Calvo-Armi" war would not be healthy at all for the Forum. Your Brother in Christ, Nolan |