Prior Book | Prior Chapter | Prior Verse | Next Verse | Next Chapter | Next Book | Viewing NASB and Amplified 2015 | |
NASB | Romans 8:30 and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 8:30 And those whom He predestined, He also called; and those whom He called, He also justified [declared free of the guilt of sin]; and those whom He justified, He also glorified [raising them to a heavenly dignity]. |
Subject: Are those He called always chosen? |
Bible Note: Greetings EdB! I have to humbly disagree with you my friend! If Joe and I were engaged in a mean spirited debate, I could see where there would be some harm. However, there hasn't been any of that between us. I consider Joe a brother in the Lord and respect his viewpoint. We both have been avoiding posting any of our discussion as questions, so that we don't clutter up the new question section with our discussion. So, I simply don't see any harm to it. Will either of us convince the other that he is wrong? Probably not! But, I know that I do my best to let Scripture inform my doctrine (and I assume that the same is true of Joe) so if someone could show me where I was wrong, I could change. I've said before that part of what I hope to accomplish in a debate is to present my case and through the interaction with others see if there are things I may have missed or not understood correctly. I also think there is a benefit for others to be able to see both sides present logically and politely. I would much rather discuss this issue than whom did Cain marry! :-) p.s. - I have to agree with Joe's reply to you. Anyone who is not interested in this thread can simply not read it. There are many threads that I don't follow, simply because I see nothing that interests me. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |