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NASB | Romans 8:30 and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 8:30 And those whom He predestined, He also called; and those whom He called, He also justified [declared free of the guilt of sin]; and those whom He justified, He also glorified [raising them to a heavenly dignity]. |
Subject: Are those He called always chosen? |
Bible Note: Greetings Steve! Thanks! Like I said to Joe, I too think that Romans 8 applies to believers as well. I just believe that Paul is using "those whom God foreknew" in a technicule sense for Israel. I realized it was used a few more times by other writers, but generally I try to limit a word study to a particular author, since other authors may use words differently. Years ago, I did a major paper in college on Rom. 9-11. While researching it, I came across a reference to a commentator who believed that "proginosko" was being used as a title for Israel. His name was Black. However, I was never able to find the book where he discussed it in more detail. Other than that one reference, I have never heard anyone else make the connection between 8:28 and 11:2. I liked your observation about reading Romans through. I have always been dissatisfied with the view that Romans is simply a compendium of Paul's theology. It always seemed much more occasional than that. I found one author recently who commented that the questions in Rom. 3 are answered in Rom. 9. Personally, I beleive that Romans 1-11 must be studied as a unit. Keep up the good work! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |