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NASB | 1 Timothy 2:9 Likewise, I want women to adorn themselves with proper clothing, modestly and discreetly, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly garments, |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 Timothy 2:9 Likewise, I want women to adorn themselves modestly and appropriately and discreetly in proper clothing, not with [elaborately] braided hair and gold or pearls or expensive clothes, |
Subject: Rowdy, Rowdy, are you sure? |
Bible Note: Thank you again for taking time to reply, Nobel. I could go into details about how to narrow down our study, but I do not think that that is something you are really interested in discussing. Especiallly considering your fundamental presuppositions. By the way, this topic is one that has been deliberated many times by many believers. I recall an anecdote that showed this difference very well. I had thought I had posted it here in the past, but I do not find it now. Perhaps you would find it interesting: A Quaker went to a barber. The barber, while cutting his hair, comments on how he has obtained a book on Algebra and has begun to study this area of mathematics. The Quaker laughs and declares that he has no need for such knowledge. He that explains that he does not need Algebra to plow his fields or raise his livestock. All that is needed, declares the quaker, is the Bible. A Puritan went to this same barber. The barber, while cutting his hair, comments on how he has obtained a book on Algebra and has begun to study this area of mathematics. The Puritan commends the barber for his diligence and industry. As he continues the conversation the Puritan comments that God must be the greatest Algebrarian of them all! I am very curious about this notion that God does not command us to study Him nor to study His Word. Nobel, have you ever been in love? I'm sorry, I don't mean to get personal -- that question was rhetorical. You may have heard me speak of my far-better-half. Karen is quite a lady! Being in love with her, I find myself fascinated by everything that is Karen. I delight in finding out about her thoughts, her ideas, her ways, her opinions, her habits, her history, her hopes, her dreams, etc. etc. Finding out something new about her is a great delight! I listen carefully to what she says and how she says it. Even the simplest of comments is a delight. She is my beloved! I have this same experience with my God. Every little nuance of Who He is is of significance to me. Everything He has said, or done, or planned, or thought -- to the degree that I am able to comprehend -- is a delight. The incredible thing is that since He is infinite, no matter how many of us are with Him in paradise, we will never exhaust all that there is to know about Him! One day, a million years from now, maybe I'll come running up to one of the brothers here on the forum and exclaim, "Brother! You'll never guess what I found out about the Lord!" Regarding the "fostering and maintaining of divisions in the church" I think you will find very strong agreement and great unity in the essentials of the faith in orthodoxy. (The cries against divisiveness are most common outside of the conservative, old-time-religion circles. For example, liberals are always throwing this up -- along with the lack of love stuff -- as a means of avoiding the actual theological issues in question.) However -- and I do not mean this to sound sarcastic -- you will never be able to verify the veracity of these statements since you will not be learning anything about us or what we believe. Well, Nobel, I could go on and on about theology proper and hermeneutics. I love the Lord so much! I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. Besides, since all of these topics have their roots in theology, we aren't going to get very far, are we? :-) Thanks again for taking the time to think through -- or at least talk -- about these things. I wish we could have been of greater assistance to one another. In Him, Doc |