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NASB | Romans 9:21 Or does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for common use? |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 9:21 Does the potter not have the right over the clay, to make from the same lump [of clay] one object for honorable use [something beautiful or distinctive] and another for common use [something ordinary or menial]? |
Subject: Whats up with Judgement, calvinists plz? |
Bible Note: Dear Newcreature, You said: Many will actually argue that they do not personally have a free will to choose anything. In this line of thinking ... Man becomes a puppet/or a robot and that "God forced them into becoming a Christian Without free will, Where did you come up with such a disgusting idea??? How many? Who are the many? How do you know it's true. Have you learned it from reading Calvins works perhap? Or maybe you got it from aweb site run by critics of calvinism? You never got it from me, or Joe, or Lionstrong or Steve or Kalos. You did not hear it from Hank or Tim or Emmaus. It is plain that despite all the testimony that I and men like Reformer Joe and Lionstrong and others have given on what free will means to a calvinist that 1. You are ignorant because you never bothered to inform youself or 2. You read it but think we are misrepresenting "real calvinism".3 or somebody told you thats what calvinists believe. Which one of the 3 is it? John Reformed |