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NASB | Romans 9:21 Or does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for common use? |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 9:21 Does the potter not have the right over the clay, to make from the same lump [of clay] one object for honorable use [something beautiful or distinctive] and another for common use [something ordinary or menial]? |
Subject: Whats up with Judgement, calvinists plz? |
Bible Note: JRdoc: I pretty much agree with this post of yours. I don't find very much to dispute over what you posted. The only thing I might add is that when referring to either Calvinist's or Arminian's I wouldn't classify all Calvinist's into one group. Instead I would say there are Calvinists that disagree with Calvinists, just as there also are different camps within Arminianism. I have spoken to some Calvinist's that claim to be 4 or 3 point, rather than 5 point Calvinists' Some we call hyper-Calvinists, others we might classify as moderate. I think there also are hyper-Arminians and moderate ones as well. Finally I wouldn't call any Calvinist or Arminian as being immature in the word of God. It is before God they stand, it's not my job to judge either. Both are sncere in what they believe. I won't say they are sincerely wrong. While that may be the case, I pray as you do that both sides of the coin of truth may be shown to them. If all I ever saw was the heads side of a coin, then I wouldn't know the truth of there being a tails side to it also. Calvinist's and Arminian's use the same Bible and both can find Scripture to support what they believe. I have even read of those who were once Calvinist and after time spent in God's word, switched over to the Arminian camp. Likewise I have heard of some Arminian's who later switched over to the side of Calvinism. |