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NASB | Romans 8:30 and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 8:30 And those whom He predestined, He also called; and those whom He called, He also justified [declared free of the guilt of sin]; and those whom He justified, He also glorified [raising them to a heavenly dignity]. |
Subject: Are those He called always chosen? |
Bible Note: Rextar I’m sorry to differ with you but what they are presenting are classic textbook discussions that have taken place for the last 400 years. Joe is using all the Calvinist proof text and Morgan61 is using all the Arminianist proof text. Nothing of new value is being added nor would I expect it to be since as I have said this discussion has been hashed and rehashed for approx. 400 years. However I believe if you could get into the heart of both Joe and Morgan61 and be able to understand what it is they really believe you would find there isn’t a significant difference. Their conclusion is the same, “People need Jesus”, the only thing that is different is their starting point. |