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Subject: Is 'once saved always saved correct? |
Bible Note: Greetings Mike! I think you mentioned your view of Eph. 2:8-9 before, and I think I asked then how you could make 'works' in verse 9 mean 'works of the law' while 'works' in verse 10 means 'works of obedience'. The same work is used in both verses. The context does not mention the law. A much better interpretation would simply be that works (of any kind) do not save, but that they are a part of God's plan for us after salvation. Does God expect us to obey? Yes! But, that obedience in no way saves us, only (as you pointed out) the blood of Christ can do that! However, nowhere in Scripture are we told that we need a repeated cleansing of His blood. Rom. 3:25 - "God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood. He did this to demonstrate his justice, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished—" This verse makes it clear that our participation in the atonement is by faith. But, Rom. 5:9 makes it clear that this justification (aorist, passive, participle) is a once and for all act. Eph. 1:7 makes forgiveness of sins a present possession (present, active, indicative) of believers. Heb. 9:28, indeed all of Heb. 9 - 10, makes it clear that all of our sins were taken away and forgiven in the one atoning act of Christ on the cross. Nowhere in Scripture does it say that if we sin as a Christian, we cease to be a Christian and must be re-saved. This is the one point where you and I disagree my friend. 1 John 1:9 doesn't refer to being saved again, it refers to a continual sanctification that takes place in the life of a believer. If we confess our sins, he will forgive and purify us. So, as I see it, in order to make your case Scripturally, you need to do two things. 1) Justify making 'works' have one meaning in Eph. 2:9 and another meaning in Eph. 2:10. 2) Provide any Scripture which says that a single act (or any number) of sin causes us to lose our salvation until it is confessed. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |