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NASB | John 6:37 "All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 6:37 "All that My Father gives Me will come to Me; and the one who comes to Me I will most certainly not cast out [I will never, never reject anyone who follows Me]. |
Subject: Is 'once saved always saved correct? |
Bible Note: Joe, 1) First of all, I never said that the word "class" was in the Bible. I simply asked her to go to a concordance and try to find the phrase, "once saved always saved". You cannot find it - it's simply not there. 2) Secondly, in Webster's New World College Dictionary, the following definition is "one" of the meanings of the word "class": "A number of people or things grouped together because of certain likenesses or common traits; kind; sort; category." The word "predestinate" means "to set bounds before, determine, decree or ordain beforehand". It is important to understand that God can "foreknow" how men would react to His will without "forcing" His will upon us. It is easy for us to forget that time is not a factor with God. God "foreknew" or approved of the "type" or "class" or "kind" or "category" of persons He planned to save --- the obedient (Rom. 6:17)! God through His prophet, Samuel, told Saul that "obedience" was priority number one (1 Samuel 15:22) in his day and God still hasn't changed His mind (Matt. 7:21; James 1:22, 25). Foreordination does not refer to a certain "person" (God doesn't "choose" John to be saved but Mary will be lost - if He did that, He would be a respecter of persons - which He is not - Acts 10:34; Rom. 2:11; Eph. 6:9) but "kind" of person with a certain "kind" of character (See Ephesians 1:4-13). Before man was created God "foresaw" his fall, and designed the Gospel for his redemption; this fact is well attested by scripture (Rom. 16:25-26; 1 Cor. 2:7; Eph. 1:8; 3:9; Col. 1:25-26). God "foreknew" that a certain "type" or "class" or "kind" or "category" of people yet to be born would "accept" a salvation yet to be provided through the terms of the Gospel yet to be made actual. Man would never know anything about God's Son unless we had been "called" by the Gospel (2 Thess. 2:14). When man is "obedient" from the heart to that call of the Gospel (Rom. 6:17), he is justified from the guilt of sin (Acts 22:16; Rom. 6:18; 1 Pet. 3:21). 3) Thirdly, when a person asks a sincere Bible question either on this forum (or anywhere else), I as a Christian, am required to answer it by scripture (Col. 4:6; 2 Tim. 2:25; 1 Peter 3:15; 4:11). Since you obviously disagree with the answer that I responded with, you as a fellow Christian should correct me with proper scripture so that I might know where I my error is (2 Tim. 2:22-26) so that I might have a correct knowledge of God's Truth. I answered this lady's Bible question to the best of my Bible knowledge and ability. If I have failed, then I will certainly ask her and God to forgive me and give the matter further study. As of this point in time, she has not responded in kind. Mike |