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NASB | John 6:37 "All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 6:37 "All that My Father gives Me will come to Me; and the one who comes to Me I will most certainly not cast out [I will never, never reject anyone who follows Me]. |
Subject: Is 'once saved always saved correct? |
Bible Note: Mike: You wrote: '1) First of all, I never said that the word "class" was in the Bible. I simply asked her to go to a concordance and try to find the phrase, "once saved always saved". You cannot find it - it's simply not there.' That is NOT all you wrote, Mike. You said that because that exact phrase is not there, then the doctrine itself is not taught in Scripture. Please be honest. Mike, you will NEVER see heaven's rest with your unbiblical theology. Is our salvation dependent upon our obedience or upon Christ's obedience? Titus 3:5-7 gives us the clear answer. It is not our works of righteousness. It is God's mercy. You will never merit salvation, Mike, because you are a vile sinner like the rest of us. You could not even begin to enumerate the number of times every hour that you offend an infinitely holy God. Do you honestly believe that your confessing mouth can keep up with your sinfulness? You are not a Christian with the theology you hold, because you are not trusting in Christ alone for your salvation. Since you are making this wild assertion that the Christian life is a "saved-lost-saved-lost-saved-lost-saved-lost" revolving door, please tell me what saves us, Christ's once-for-all sacrifice (Romans 6:10, Hebrews 7:27, Hebrews 10:10, 1 Peter 3:18), or Mike's act of confessing his sins? In your scenario, there is no room for Paul's security and hope of a guaranteed future. In fact, with your "daily confession" scenario, you actually spend more of your life lost than saved, because within minutes of your confession, you have committed rebellion against God again, in thought or word or deed. There is proper Scripture for you, Mike. And I would ask for correction, as well. Please tell me why any of the New Testament writers have ANY reason for hope if they can never be sure if they are on the inside of the revolving door at any given point in time. Trust in Christ's completed work, Mike, and you will be guaranteed an inheritance. Trusting in Mike's actions will guarantee yourself a place in the outer darkness, with much weeping and gnashing of teeth -- forever. "also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will," --Ephesians 1:11 "For He rescued us from the domain of darkness, and transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins." --Colossians 1:13-14 "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His great mercy has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to obtain an inheritance which is imperishable and undefiled and will not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, who are protected by the power of God through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time." --1 Peter 1:3-5 Who caused us to be born again, Mike? According to what? What is reserved for us in heaven? Who protects us for our salvation? Please do not run away from the discussion as you have several times in the past. Under your scenario, please tell me what Peter is saying in these verses? How does it fit with your view that we have to confess every last, individual sin in order to maintain our salvation? --Joe! |