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NASB | John 6:37 "All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 6:37 "All that My Father gives Me will come to Me; and the one who comes to Me I will most certainly not cast out [I will never, never reject anyone who follows Me]. |
Subject: Is 'once saved always saved correct? |
Bible Note: Dear Joe, Maybe you should just set up your own Bible school and then you could teach the scriptures to everyone "correctly" as I (as well as others on this forum) have contradicted and grossly misinterpreted the scriptures too many times in your estimation. You stated in your posting, "The only way to hold to your position is to pick and choose the "works" passages and reject the "faith alone" ones, which equally as erroneous as holding to the "faith alone" passages and ignoring the ones which you mention in your posts." In my Bible (maybe yours reads differently), I do not see a "grace alone" nor a "faith alone" passage of scripture. The only way you can read that rendering is by "adding" to the scriptures which is (as you well know) forbidden. There are many preachers who teach the following: "You are saved by grace alone"; "There is no human part of salvation"; We do not contribute one whit to our salvation"; Our salvation arises entirely and ONLY from grace .... not by one act of duty, not by one deed of obedience, not by one righteous thing we do". "My salvation is based on grace alone ... I'm not saved because I believe or because I repented or because I was baptized ... there is only one "because of" in the plan of salvation"; "We are saved by grace plus NOTHING .... God does it all"! "We keep trying to place "conditions" on our receiving it (the free gift of grace)". "Grace is the ONLY thing that does save you". "Our works have nothing to do with our salvation". "The real motivation for obeying the Lord is NOT "in order to be saved" but rather "because we are saved". "I had absolutely nothing to do with my own salvation!" "Nobody has any right to preach anything other than the Gospel of pure grace". "We are saved by grace plus nothing". "You are saved by faith period". "There is nothing you can DO to be saved as God as done everything for your salvation". My question to you is: Are these preachers speaking the truth? If so: 1) Why is there not even one passage of Scripture that says we are saved by grace ALONE? Instead, the Bible teaches that we are saved by God and Christ (Tit. 1:3-4); the blood of Christ (1 Pet. 1:18-19); faith in Christ (Rom. 5:1-2); repentance (2 Cor. 7:10); baptism (1 Pet. 3:21); works (James 2:24); and hope (Rom. 8:24-25). 2) Why are not all men saved? According to Titus 2:11, the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men. Yet, most men will not be saved according to Matt. 7:13-14. 3) Why did Peter say "save yourselves from this untoward generation" (Acts 2:40) and Paul say "work out your own salvation with fear and trembling" (Phil. 2:12)? 4) Why does the Bible teach us to believe, repent, confess, be baptized, and endure to the end in order to be saved (Rom. 10:9-10; Acts 2:38; Mark 13:13; Rev. 2:10)? The plain facts are (as I've stated over and over again in my postings) that the Bible teaches we are saved by "grace through faith" (Eph. 2:8-9; Rom. 5:1). Grace includes all that God does and has done for us (Romans Chapter 5; John 3:16-17) and many other passages. Faith includes all that man does and must do (Acts 2:37-38; 16:25-34). Note the keeper of the prison asked, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?" What did Paul and Silas tell him? To do NOTHING? God has done everything for you already? Just accept Christ as your personal Savior? That's an EASY salvation! Most people enjoy and like that EASY salvation because they do not have to make ANY EFFORT at all! Just sit back and let the good times roll! Wait for the Lord to return and take you home to heaven! How convenient but unfortunately not true according to Bible teaching. Saving faith is not DEAD but LIVING and WORKING (Jam. 2:14-26; Rom. 1:5; 16:25; Gal. 5:6; Heb. 11). It is NOT negative, legalistic, or "guilt-trip" preaching to teach that there is something that man MUST DO in order to be saved and to CONTINUE to be saved - it is Bible teaching (Matt. 7:21; Acts 2:37-38; 9:6; 13:43; 22:16; Rom. 6:4; 2 Cor. 6:1; Gal. 2:21; 5:4; 2 Thess. 1:8; Heb. 5:8-9; 12:15; 1 John 1:7; Jude 4; Rev. 2:10). May the Lord bless you anyway! Mike |