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NASB | John 3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 3:3 Jesus answered him, "I assure you and most solemnly say to you, unless a person is born again [reborn from above--spiritually transformed, renewed, sanctified], he cannot [ever] see and experience the kingdom of God." |
Subject: Isn't believing Christ for salvation suf |
Bible Note: If Salvation was the main issue for God bringing Jesus into this world why did he, after 30 yrs., goe through 3 1/2 more just to redeem man? Think about it before you start your criticisms. He could have gone straight to the cross. If you say 'well He had to accomplish a few healing tasks to prove who He was' I ask why..if redemption was the main issue? "Historic christian orthodoxy rejects the idea that baptism (or any work) is necessary for salvation. We are saved by grace alone, through faith alone is Basic Bible 101." And I agree with Historic Christian orthodoxy 101 in rejecting the need of 'water' baptism as necessary for salvation but what does that have to do with need for being 'born again' to satisfy Jn 3.3,5? However, water baptism does carry a much deeper meaning than what we are commonly taught to accept, but not for salvation and Jn3.3,5 has nothing to do with salvation. "Those who perservere to the end do so because they have been born again. They are new creatures created "in Christ". Really? "In Christ"? Then why the need to perservere? Is that what Jesus did...perservere? 'New creatures' carries with it a divine nature that possesses a heavenly vision not unlike what Jesus experienced. It's part of the Born Again experience that doesn't demand discipline of that sort though perservering in Christian life does have everything to do with overcoming self to become a son pleasing to the Father..Read Rev. 1-3. "Your casting of Mk 5:25 as a verse dealing with salvation is mistaken. Clearly it is a verse dealing with healing. The woman believed that Jesus had miraculous healing power, but so did many others who followed Him. The problem was that they were not prepared to accept that He was God incarnate." I said it "typifies" how salvation is accomplished. Try to follow: "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God". This was accomplished in her which took her to Jesus. He healed her typifying salvation by making her physically whole. We do that when we come to Jesus for our salvation, right? Now who faith are to live by if we CHOOSE to follow Him? His or ours? If His then the Born again experience is opened up to us. If ours, we stay in "self-mode", alienated from the kingdom of God. I trust I've been more clear. |