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NASB | Matthew 8:5 ¶ And when Jesus entered Capernaum, a centurion came to Him, imploring Him, |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Matthew 8:5 ¶ As Jesus went into Capernaum, a centurion came up to Him, begging Him [for help], [Luke 7:1-10] |
Bible Question:
Part 3 This is a very avid description of what the Bible says that Jesus had to be loosed from. Other translations also give us descriptions of what is possibly the experience that our Lord had while He was in Hades: God hath raised up, having loosed the sorrows of hell, as it was impossible that he should be holden by it. (Douay-Rheims) But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him. (New International Version) But God would not allow the bitter pains of death to hold him. He raised him to life again – indeed there was nothing by which death could hold such a man. (Phillips) But God has raised him up and freed him from the suffering of death; it was impossible that death could keep its hold on him. (Jewish New Testament) However, God released him from the horrors of death and raised him back to life again, for death could not keep him in its grip. (New Living Translation) Sorrows, agony, bitter pains, suffering, and horrors. This does not sound as if our Lord sat three days in Abraham's bosom enjoying heavenly bliss until it was time for His ressurection. For those who strangely believe that He went directly to Heaven and to the Father upon His death, the words used to describe our Lord's death experience do not seem to make such an implication. Furthermore verses 27 and 31 makes it clear that His soul was in Hades. All of these descriptions are spoken of our Lord while His soul was still in Hades. Therefore it is not necessary to say that only in Gehenna one suffers torment and punishment for sin. The Bible teaches us that Hades and Gehenna are places that have torments awaiting the unrighteous one that would enter into its gates. The evidence that some scholars use to make a case against the possibility of Jesus having suffered in hell is not sufficient in light of what we have seen thus far. To read more go to this web site and read the entire apologetic. www.victoryword.100megspop2.com/tenrsn/jds/append_c.html I realize this is a long address but it is correct. God bless |
Bible Answer: Graceful You quoted "All of these descriptions are spoken of our Lord while His soul was still in Hades. Therefore it is not necessary to say that only in Gehenna one suffers torment and punishment for sin. The Bible teaches us that Hades and Gehenna are places that have torments awaiting the unrighteous one that would enter into its gates. The evidence that some scholars use to make a case against the possibility of Jesus having suffered in hell is not sufficient in light of what we have seen thus far." First Hades is not place of punishment since Judgement has not yet occurred. We also know the Lake of fire is the place that sinners will go to be punished. One side of Hades is a place that is described as hot and dry. The other side is called paradise or Abraham's bosom. Jesus told the thief today you will be with me in paradise, Abraham's bosom. Eph 4:8 says Jesus lead captive captivity and that could only be talking about the souls in Abraham's bosom. No where in any of these quotes do they say Hades is Satan's domain or that He resides there or even that he went there to torture Jesus. Nothing quoted here offers any proof that Jesus was tormented in Hades only that he went there. Since there is two sides and considering what Jesus said on the cross to the thief and what we know he did it makes far more sense to believe Jesus went to Hades on Abraham's bosom side than into the hot dry place. In my opinion these post prove nothing. They state a lot of things but as far as proof they contain very little. Certainly nothing here proves Satan is master of Hades or that he tortured Jesus while Jesus was there. Or even that Satan has ever been in Hades. And isn’t that what we were discussing? Notice also this thread is now restricted. I suspect someone other than me got tired of your WOF rhetoric and complained. EdB |