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NASB | Matthew 26:29 "But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father's kingdom." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Matthew 26:29 "But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father's kingdom." |
Subject: What is 'the fruit of the vine'? |
Bible Note: Tim: You wrote: "If a word as more than one possible reasonable meaning, then why would those who say that it may refer to an unfermented substance be under more of a burden than those who assume that it refers to a fermented beverage? :-)" I didn't say that the burden of proof is on those who say it MAY refer to a non-alcoholic beverage, but rather on those who insist that it MUST refer to one. Secondly, while there may be a total of 15 words in the entire Bible which can be translated "wine," you have to admit that some of that is due to overlap between the two languages. How does the Septuagint translate the word "yayin" to Greek, for example? "Concerning a prophibition against alcohol, is there any Biblical passage which commands us to drink?" No, and I never said there was. "The assumption is made that since we are commanded to [not] be drunkards that drinking in moderation is okay." Well, the assumption I make is since there is no prohibition against drinking, and that it is seen as a practice among the people of God, and that Jesus consecrated wine for the communion and changed water into wina at Cana, that it is not expressly forbidden. "I just don't want to see those of us who have made the other decision to be classified as ignorant (not by you my friend)." My problem isn't with those who choose not to drink, nor those who say it is best for us not to drink, but rather with those who argue that GOD commanded us never to drink alcohol. I realize that there are very unwise situations for someone to drink, both for their own sakes and for others. And I am not arguing that one should see how close to the line that they can get to drunkenness without crossing over. My argument is that a glass of wine at a meal or partaking of communion wine is not a sin in itself. I will look up the word for "wine" in those other passages I cited before, and maybe we can pick up on this later. Maybe not, since I really didn't want to major on this... --Joe! |