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NASB | Matthew 16:28 ¶ "Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Matthew 16:28 ¶ "I assure you and most solemnly say to you, there are some of those standing here who will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom." |
Subject: Preterism refuted using Scripture alone? |
Bible Note: Coper, As discovered in our first exchange we are both appreciative of Russell's Parousia. To me it is the most enlightening - and most importantly - thought provoking commentary I've read. Although I agree all prophesy fulfilled in 70AD I see much more of the supernatural than many full preterists. Just one example: The view that Nero was the beast is logical to me, but consider Rev. 13:13-15. This speaks not of Nero but of the two horned beast that spake as a dragon.Unlike Nero he had real power to work miracles including giving life to the image of the first beast. Many see beast and man of sin as synonomous but I think this may be in error. I think it possible this person could be possessed by Satan or maybe even Satan in the flesh. "Spake as a dragon" leaps off the page. Here is a thought I had while reading his commentary on Rev. 20, with which he concedes some difficulty. To me a stumbling block to full preterist view is proposition that the 1000 years Satan was bound somehow occurred in the 40 years prior to 70AD. John 12:31; "Now is the judgment of this world; now the prince of this world will be cast out." Spoken by Jesus on the way to Jerusalem a few days before His death. This verse is one used by full preterists to show the 1000 year binding of Satan as being fulfilled between the time of Jesus ministry and just before the destruction of Jerusalem, but I beleive it more likely that "cast out" refers to Satan being loosed instead of bound. To match Revelation's account of Satan's confinement, one would think cast down (into the pit) would be more appropriate. Some definitions of cast out (ekballo) are; sent away, driven out, deprived of power and influence in the world. But also included are; to command or cause one to depart in haste, to cause a thing to move straight on its intended goal, to draw out, extract, to bring out of, to draw or bring forth. Seeing these last definitions it seems possible that this verse refers not to Satan's bondage, but to his being "loosed a little season" - drawn out or extracted from the pit to fulfill his prophesied mission. I had accepted being being loosed as coincident with Nero's reign because of the extreme persecution he inflicted, but there was condiderable and increasung persecution from the crucifixion until 70AD. A prime example being Saul/Paul's persecution of Christians before his conversion, and the dangers, assaults and ultimate execution he endured after. The New Testament as well as various historians record the persecutions and executions of Christians during this period culminating in the judgement that ended the Mosaic age. While a thousand years can can be symbolic of longer or shorter time periods, it could also be literal, so I wondered what significant event may have been a thousand years prior to Christ. About 1000 years prior to Christ's crucifixion was the reign of Solomon and beginning of the temple (about 940BC by Anstey's OT chronology). Could this have been when the devil was bound? I really don't know but find it interesting. Regardless of exactly when he was bound, I beleive the "released for a little while" must refer to persecution of the Saints, deception and gathering of nations in years between crucifixion and 70AD. These are speculations, food for thought, I beleive in accordance with Acts 17:11. Tom |