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NASB | Matthew 16:28 ¶ "Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Matthew 16:28 ¶ "I assure you and most solemnly say to you, there are some of those standing here who will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom." |
Subject: Still not convinced preterism is false |
Bible Note: There's a lot here, so I won't try to address it all. But here are some points to consider. There are many timing words and phrases used in the Revelation, "and after this. . .", "After these things. . ." and such. I think it is a mistake to overlook the significance of those timing cues. "Stars" are used in the Bible of more than just the celestial lights in the sky. Rev. 1:20, and apparently 9:1 use star for angels, or messengers. Considering the earth is prophesied to remain forever, we need to be certain we can show from Scripture which meaning of "star" is being used here, the celestial burning ball of gas, angel/messenger, or something else. In the opening of the sixth seal, the sky is "parted", the mountains and islands are not "removed", they are "moved". I would like to suggest that we stick to what is provable from the text, when we take it literally - seriously - to determine what God intends to say through it. Should I allow for the sake of argument that none in the ancient world could count, would that mean that God couldn't count? What can be demonstrated from the Bible itself about how numbers are used in Scripture, and particularly concerning prophecy. What about the 70 years of captivity? Daniel seemed to think that they were 70 actual years, and he seemed to be able to know when they were close to ending. I do not believe that Rev. 20 simply repeats all the chapters that have preceded it. If that is your assertion, it is up to you to substantiate it. By "taking a passage literally", I do not mean that we are to think that "God is a bird", or that none of us should have hands. We simply need to demonstrate from the text what God intends us to know, and accept that as the actual meaning of the passage. As with most matters of prophecy, there are large groups of people who will all disagree with each other, but we know that truth is not proven by head count. But as I am looking over this thread, its already rather lengthy, and I don't see the benefit of adding to it our continuing dispute, so I will bow out at this point. Should you desire the last word on any of these things I will understand. God bless! Love in Christ, Mark |