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NASB | Matthew 16:28 ¶ "Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Matthew 16:28 ¶ "I assure you and most solemnly say to you, there are some of those standing here who will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom." |
Subject: Still not convinced preterism is false |
Bible Note: Hello Coper, Some questions arise from your reply to Tim: 1.Why do you think, "It seems that you may have read more into the Acts 1:11 passage than is written? How so?; 2. If we are talking about Acts 1:9, what makes you conclude "cloud coming" is metaphorical? I don't see this:-) Again, to continue, Dr. Mal Couch writes, "While the entire verse of Acts 1:11 describes a literal taking up of the Lord into heaven, how He comes again is the focus that is most important. Notice how the disciples saw ("blepo") visually His bodily ascension, in like manner He will return—visually and literally. Concerning that return the Greek text reads, Likewise, He shall come (Fut.) in the exact manner you saw Him "going" into the heaven. Likewise is houtos in Greek and means "in this way."[i] "In this manner."[ii] Or, "in the way it was done."[iii] And, "just like."[iv] Thus, "in the very same way" He shall come. This idea is fortified with the expression, in the exact manner ("hon tropon"). According to the great Greek scholar A. T. Robertson, Luke the author of Acts, reinforces the idea of "how" Jesus will return by using this expression, and by using hon tropon. He writes, "(houtos … hon tropon) This points to the same idea twice. "So in like manner." Luke points to the fact of his second coming and the manner of it also …" (Word Pictures) Along with houtos, hon tropon rebuts loud and clear the main thesis of the preterist position, and that is, that Christ will return in some figurative or spiritualized form and not bodily, literally, and visibly, as the Scriptures say. In the Exact Manner (hon tropon) Scholars who are not premillennial and/or futurists agree on the meaning of this expression. The little word hon is an accusative, singular, masculine form of the relative pronoun hos generally translated which, that which. Joined to tropon, the expression is going to be: in exactly the same way. In other words, "as Jesus went into the heaven in an absolute physical and visible way, He will in just the same manner, physically and visibly, return!" Hon tropon leaves no possibility for the preterist interpretation of simply a spiritual return of Christ and not a visible coming back to earth." 3. Lastly, why must the meaning of scripture only be confined to what was relevant to the original audience? Where is the support for this? The logical extreme is, then, scripture has no real meaning for any of us! Certainly this is not what you're postulating? Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |