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NASB | Matthew 16:28 ¶ "Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Matthew 16:28 ¶ "I assure you and most solemnly say to you, there are some of those standing here who will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom." |
Subject: Still not convinced preterism is false |
Bible Note: BradK, It would have been helpful to me if you would have addressed the Is. 19:1 passage that I compared to the Acts 1:11 passage. Again, the manner of his ascension was "in a cloud". That's indisputable. That's how he ascended. They were then told that he would come again in the same manner that he left: "in a cloud". I read nothing further into the text. The text does not address the question of physicality. To say that his return must be in the same physical body that ascended is reading more into the text than is necessary. The Apostle John was present when Jesus ascended, right? John would later say: Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we shall be. We know that when He appears we will be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is (I John 3:2). If Jesus was going to return in the same physical body that ascended, John would have known exactly what he would look like and would be able to relate that to his audience. However, he clearly said that it hadn't appeared up to that point how he would appear at his coming. Also, in order to apply his coming to any generation other than the one living at that time one must ignore the time-frame setting of the entire NT. Let's settle the "When" of Christ's coming as taught in Scripture then we can move onto the "What" (what manner, what body etc.). You asked: Why must the meaning of Scripture only be confined to what was relevant to the original audience? I have never stated, to my knowledge, that the Scripture is only relevant to the original audience. I only believe that one must begin with audience relevance in order to determine the context of Scripture. I'll give you an example. Matt. 28:16-20 is called the great commission. To whom was it addressed? Verse 16 says explicitly that it was to the eleven remaining disciples. Was it written to us? No. It is history. And, they proceeded to do just as Christ commanded them. If one chooses to apply that to themselves and others, I believe that they are misusing the direct command of Christ to the eleven. If one does not use this hermeneutic they open themselves up to all the abuses that we've all seen. One can make the Word say and mean anything they want it to. As far as what Scripture means for us today, we live by the priciples given, not the direct commands such as the example above. Coper |