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1 | Rowdy, Rowdy, are you sure? | 1 Tim 2:9 | DocTrinsograce | 132092 | ||
Ma'am, I am not arguing your point. However, I am curious. (1) On what scriptures do you base the conclusion that "conversion is a process?" (2) If Romans 10:17 and Romans 10:14, how can the reduction of preaching cause "more souls" to be "drawn to God?" Hopefully I have understood your statements and have faithfully reproduced your position. Thank you... I look forward to your response. (Forensic Scientist: Cool!) |
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2 | Rowdy, Rowdy, are you sure? | 1 Tim 2:9 | WalkingTalkingBible | 132185 | ||
Hi, Doc, when I used the word 'conversion' I was not speaking in theological terms. I do understand, however, that theologically, conversion has one meaning, and it's pertaining to the moment when one accepts Christ as Savior. I also understand that this is instantaneous. But in reality (spiritually), conversion also pertains to spiritual growth which is a process. When one accepts Christ as Savior, she doesn't immediately become holy. God teaches her to live holy. For example, when I first accepted Christ as Savior, I was full of pride, anger, and selfishness. Those sinful characteristics didn't just "fall off" when I accepted Salvation. As I grew closer to God, I was converted from prideful to humble. Later, I was converted from angry to peaceful, selfish to giving, hateful to loving. It's a process as I am being converted from the sin nature to holiness. And He's not finished with me, either. Holy is the very nature of God. I believe I'm safe in stating that no man has taken on the nature of God when Christ was accepted into his soul. However, I guess I could've used the word 'transition' but it means conversion! 2 Peter 1:4-8 "Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ." These don't all come in the instantaneous conversion, you obtain these characteristics of God as you walk faithfully with Him and are continually converted from the sin nature to holiness. What EdB responded concerning conversion and preaching - I could not have said it better. I didn't mean stop preaching. I mean that preaching and love has to line up with each other. God says that we are the light of the world. Light is silent. Our way of life should be a witness to others even when we are not preaching. A lot of people are preaching, but few are loving. God says He drew us with lovingkindness and that's the same compassion we ought to have for other souls. Let me know if you understand my position and thanks for responding. WalkingTalkingBible |
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3 | Rowdy, Rowdy, are you sure? | 1 Tim 2:9 | kalos | 132204 | ||
WTB: You write: 'I do understand, however, that THEOLOGICALLY, conversion has one meaning, and it's pertaining to the moment when one accepts Christ as Savior. I also understand that this is instantaneous. But IN REALITY (spiritually), conversion also pertains to spiritual growth which is a process' (emphasis added). Are you saying that theology and reality are two mutually exclusive concepts -- that the two are at odds with each other? Grace to you, Kalos |
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4 | Rowdy, Rowdy, are you sure? | 1 Tim 2:9 | WalkingTalkingBible | 132368 | ||
Hi, Kalos, I view theology as man's understanding of God. Theology is equal to religion while it is often defined as the study of religion and/or the study of God. I prefer not to know OF God but to have a relationship with Him and rely totally on divine revelation. Theology offers questionable theories on Salvation (where a one time confession and repentance is taught), being born again, Holy Ghost, and forgiveness. It heavily relies on the findings of man rather than revelation from God. Theology also encourages the research of man's findings rather than a personal relationship with God Who has all the answers about everything. I separate theology from reality because it deals with what man thinks God is about and reality is what the Spirit says. I don't believe that theology is all wrong, although very limiting, some of it is in line with the Truth. However, why deal with something that has a lot of holes in it when I can have a relationship with God and get the whole truth? When I don't know the answer to biblical questions, I seek God for the answer. I hesitate to go to websites and biblical scholastic findings for an answer. I don't want what man thinks, I want to KNOW God. I do believe that after God has given an answer it's okay to see what others say about the topic. This way you will already have the truth and won't be deceived by someone else's theory or belief. Because the Holy Ghost is our divine teacher and the known fallicies of theology, I am saying that one can have a healthy relationship with God without heavily relying on theological findings. With the love of God, WalkingTalkingBible |
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5 | Rowdy, Rowdy, are you sure? | 1 Tim 2:9 | Emmaus | 132374 | ||
WTB, Theologoy has ben defined in a nutshell as: "faith seeking understanding." Faith and eeking understanding are not incompatible. Nor are the two imcompatible with a personal relationship with God. All theology is not bad nor is all theology good. Emmaus |
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