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1 | Rowdy, Rowdy, are you sure? | 1 Tim 2:9 | DocTrinsograce | 132106 | ||
Take it easy, Brother Ed... calm, rational, discussion of the Word can yield rich rewards. If I do not ask questions, how will I come to a clearer understanding of your position? Let me explain my statement regarding doctrine. In my tradition we believe that God gave us didactic scriptures to explain the narrative. Titus 1:9 and other places suggest that sound doctrine always has its basis in instruction. If you base your conversion-as-a-process doctrine solely on the example of Peter, it is really okay. I honestly do not mind ... nor do I think less of you. I was just hoping that there was more to it than that. Soteriology fascinates me. I don't think we can plumb the depths of the subject. I am well aware that your traditional roots differ from my own. I do not expect our views to be identical. Perhaps that is why your thoughts interest me so much. Furthermore, I was not taking exception to what you had posted. I was just trying to gain greater clarity. For example, we have other narrative examples (Zacchaeus, Paul, and others) of sudden conversions. How do these fit your exegesis? Now, if you can relax a little bit, perhaps you will be kind enough to answer my questions. I promise you that I am not trying to bait you. |
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2 | Rowdy, Rowdy, are you sure? | 1 Tim 2:9 | EdB | 132117 | ||
Doc Salvation is started suddenly but its completion occurs over time. Remember I said once we accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior and place our trust in nothing but Him for our salvation we become God children. However it takes time to really learn to trust in Him and Him alone. As humans we seem to take one of two ditches. The first ditch is the one where we try to make ourselves holy instead of letting the Holy Spirit clean us up. In the second ditch we do nothing saying we are saved bless God unless preacher convicts me of it I ain’t changing I’m living the good life. The Bible and the stories it contains is more that narrative to carry us to the next directive if you will. Our relationship with God is as a Child and Father and He has provided us His Word to bring us closer to Him in that relationship. However many times we approach the Bible not as love letter written by the Father to his children but rather as a text book written to provide facts. When we approach the Bible from the text book stand point we sometimes become very myopic and fail to see the whole truth contained within. When we reach that point we have a tendency to make and or support our points with proof texts. Ignoring the real picture that scripture paints we focus on a few verses and try to blow them up until they fill our view. The Pharisees knew the law, they could quote it verbatim what they lacked was an understanding of the law. God wasn’t trying to structure their lives to the point they had to count their steps to the outhouse on the Sabbath but instead to give them a day to rest in Him. How often we miss the real story as we focus on a doctrine position. Our whole lives is a learning, growing process. This process is duplicated with our earthly parents should we not expect the same process with out heavenly Father? Our relationship with God ( I use relationship so we don’t stumble all over the word salvation, sanctification, Christian walk, walk toward holiness etc) is on going and never really completed until we stand before God and hear well done good and faithful servant and even then I expect we will receive new direction and new paths to walk. EdB |
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