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1 | Still waiting.... | 1 Cor 8:5 | pcdarcan | 131021 | ||
Ooooo, so that's what this is all about... you don't believe that Jesus is a god and you're trying to disprove it. I didn't read all the entries and was only responding to what I believe was contridictory to many scriptures that clearly articulate that there are 'other gods'. From your previous post, Bro Tim, you make the statement: 'let's start with this scripture (in Isaiah) and build from there'. I have discovered in my Bible research that no one text stands alone - or else you can make the Bible say just about anything (I've seen people do this). To explain a debatable scripture, you need to have other verses in the Bible do that. That's the difference between Bible understanding and interpreting the Bible. The Bible does a find job in interpreting itself. For instance, when the apostle Paul, writing under inspiration said, "They do not believe, because their minds have been kept in the dark by the evil god of this world..." 2 Cor 4:4(Good News Bible), this verse doesn't fit into your argument that there are no other "real" gods. You can go back to those select verses in Isaiah all you want, but no scripture stands alone and that's why God supplied us with the entire Bible. Two things. 1) It sounds like you are going to a great extent to disprove that Jesus is not a god - now I see why you may be missing the clear statement from the apostle Paul in 2 Cor 4:4. The apostle Paul was inspired to write in that verse about a "real" god...in particular Satan, a powerful god in his own right because he blinds the minds of the unbelievers - Satan also convinced a third of the angels to worship and follow him. Remember that he tried to get Jesus to do an act of worship, too? A god Satan is and he acts like one. 2) Going back to the illustration of a puzzle piece forced into a place it doesn't belong... as long as that piece stays, that forces other pieces (2 Cor 4:4) not to fit - it's a domino effect. The result is that you never get a clear picture of the whole puzzle. Thanks for the feedback Bro. Tim. I'm not trying to convince you, just didn't want my points to be lost. I think this has been a healthy discussion, hope readers have enjoyed it. Signing off... |
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2 | Still waiting.... | 1 Cor 8:5 | Morant61 | 131032 | ||
Greetings Pcdarcan! Not to be mean my friend, but it usually is a good idea to read the thread that you are contributing to! ;-) John 1:1, among many others, is quite clear that Jesus is God, not 'a god'. This is completely in harmony with what Jehovah said in Isaiah about there being no other 'elohim' besides Him. The JW's, since they are a cult, do not want to acknowledge that Jesus is in fact God. So, they try to make Him into a created being, a lesser god - in direct defiance to Jehovah's clear statement. Does Satan being called the 'god of this world' indicate that he is in fact a 'elohim', when Jehovah clearly said that there are no other 'elohim' besides Him? No! As I have pointed out many times, there are things that are called 'gods' that are not really gods. Consider Is. 37:19 - "They have thrown their gods into the fire and destroyed them, for they were not gods but only wood and stone, fashioned by human hands." Here, false gods are called 'elohim', but then in the same verse they are declared to not be 'elohim'. Why? Because, calling something a 'god' simply doesn't make it one! So, if you choose to ignore Jehovah's clear statements, that is you choice! As for me, I'll trust Him rather than the JW's. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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