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1 | Whats up with Judgement, calvinists plz? | Rom 9:21 | JRdoc | 61386 | ||
2. John 3: 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. If NASA said tomorrow whosever goes to the moon will…….it would not imply that ALL could go to the moon, but those that are trained…astronauts. Here the words of Scripture are very clear and they are limited to “whosoever believeth in him,” limiting the term “whosoever.” John insures you understand this by saying that the others are “condemned already” vs 18. 3. Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. It is absolutely amazing how you only quote “part” of the verse and leave the rest out. Let him that heareth—not everyone has “spiritual ears” to hear because they have not been transformed by grace. But the announcement is only to these that HEARETH to “take the water of life freely” for it will only be these that “athirst” for they desire to be in the presence of whom John early called: “living water” (John 4:10). 1 Cor 3:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 4. John 5:40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. Yep, they will not! They are dead in trespasses and sins how can they come. Dead men do not come! If you will look at the Scriptures again surrounding the text you will see vs 39 stating they did not understand the Scriptures—compare with 1 Cor 3:14 above… 5. Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. And Rom. 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Yes, and “How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? (Rom 10:14, the very next verse again). NOTICE that the CALL comes after the BELIEF and the BELIEF comes AFTER the HEARING, but they are deaf and dumb (spiritually dead in trespasses and sins) thus until God changes them they will not hear or call or believe. This is so easy if you will just look at the total context instead of stealing parts of verses or phrases. --- YOU SAID: "….Why doesn’t God just make me good? The answer is: that wouldn’t be goodness, it would be slavery. And God isn’t interested in slaves but in sons and daughters. God will not overpower us into goodness…” Your philosophy is interesting but not biblical. (1) you are blaming God for not making you good (for you are evil—all are), thus accusing God of sin (2) the Bible does speak of you being a slave to sin (Rom 6) (3) Yes, God is interested in His sons and daughters—limited (4) and He must break the sons and daughter free from their slavery—whom the Son sets free…..he is free indeed, not whom the Son gives a will to, to set himself free (John 1:13, et. al.)! --- YOU SAY: "How can man be held accountable to God for his actions in judgment without freewill? Do those who die unbelivers get judged for something that they could not be responsible for? What kind of God would judge someone for his or her inability?"(unknown source) Men are judged for their sin—All have sinned! Men have a will and sin of their own volition. Without God’s call, election, grace, justification, atonement (etc) men will continue to sin and will be held accountable for the same. God is not holding them accountable for their inability to accept Him, but for their sin and in this sin they can not accept Him, unless and until He changes them! --- YOU SAY: "What then, you ask, does free will do? Free-will in your interpretation does one thing confuse and abuse the Scripture. God chose to save the way He did to fulfill His divine purposes. Your argument is not with us, but Him. Rom 9: 11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;) |
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2 | Whats up with Judgement, calvinists plz? | Rom 9:21 | New Creature | 61426 | ||
JRdoc: In this reply you said: "All have sinned! Men have a will and sin of their own volition. Without God’s call, election, grace, justification, atonement (etc) men will continue to sin and will be held accountable for the same." So to clear things up I ask you: Do those who are saved still sin? And will they be held accountable for unrepented sin? How about willful habitual sin in the life of a believer. And how about unconfessed sin, in the life of believers. So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. Rom. 14:12 |
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3 | Whats up with Judgement, calvinists plz? | Rom 9:21 | JRdoc | 61463 | ||
All have sinned! Men have a will and sin of their own volition. Without God’s call, election, grace, justification, atonement (etc) men will continue to sin and will be held accountable for the same, for it has not been forgien. YES, Christians still sin. When the return of the Lord does come His elect will rise and be with Him forever all sin having been taken care of--Justification. Sanctification is complete--Glorification. Crowns shall be given. Some rewards will be lost. Now if you desire an complete exposition on The Revelation and how the process of the judgment and all will take place that will take several posts and more time than I have to devote. |
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4 | Whats up with Judgement, calvinists plz? | Rom 9:21 | justme | 61610 | ||
JRdoc:Hi again, this is justme. You have really got the system of the forum down pretty well I see. I like your info, as I said before. Would you more fully explain with scripture, and you opinion, what happens to a person with unconfessed sin upon death? What about someone who had a habitual sin, and struggled their whole life with the sin? Finally, do you believe in grave sleep, meaning that when we die, untill Christ returns we are asleepin spirit? There are many verses that refer to those that are asleep in the Lord, or simular wording. This is for me confusing. Then there are those who say we have a body, soul, and spirit. Yet others say the soul and spirit are the same. Would offer your opinion on this also? I have read IMMORTALITY THE OTHER SIDE OF DEATH, by Dr. Gary R. Habermas of Liberty University, and Dr. J.P. Moreland of Talbot School of Theology, BIOLA University. I did not find the answers to the questions I am presenting to you. This book dealt more with proving there is life after death. You said "When the return of the Lord does come His elect will rise and be with him forever......" Which I wonder how Hebrews 9:27 fits into this? Does this verse mean sometime after Christ' return and after we have died then judgement comes? I am aware that either way, however this all takes place is in the Lords hands. I just would like to more fully understand His plans. Thanks for your response, and glad you are with the forum. justme |
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5 | Whats up with Judgement, calvinists plz? | Rom 9:21 | JRdoc | 61624 | ||
Hi Justme: Well I noticed I was not kicked off…some strange rules here. I am still learning this place. You will find the answers to these questions here: http://members.aol.com/twarren10/eschatology.html |
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