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1 | time | Acts 1:3 | Makarios | 42558 | ||
Greetings Sctt, Thank you for your response. However, I do not see any evidence in Genesis to lead us to believe that we should think of 930 years as anything other than just that- 930 years. I agree, 2 Peter 3:8 is an excellent piece of Scripture! However, I believe that we are taking that piece of Scripture out of context when applying it to this question. When Peter was speaking in 2 Peter 3:8, he was speaking of the Second coming of the Lord, and of the judgment to follow. He was giving "the beloved" a hope to persevere and continue on in the faith. But the book of Genesis is written as a narrative, and not in allegorical style or as a poem, and it is definitely not apocalyptic in prose either. So I would conclude that the writer of Genesis really meant "960 years" when he wrote 960 years. Also, if we take the Genesis text at "face value", we have no arguments or any room for speculation about years, etc.. Psalm 119:130 states, "The entrance of Your words gives light; it gives understanding to the simple." (KJV) And also, "Let God be true, and every man a liar." (Romans 3:4, KJV) So with that said, I believe that Christians should base their thinking upon the Bible alone, and that means that we should not add any "extra elements" to the text. If we consider Exodus 31:12, God meant six literal days- that the work must be done on six days, and then rest on the seventh day. And we must not forget that the Ten Commandments were written by the very finger of God (Ex. 31:18). Also, it is widely held that Moses wrote both Genesis and Exodus. If that is true, then why would Moses use six days in one place that meant 'periods of time' and six days in another place that clearly meant exactly what he was trying to convey- six days? In conclusion, I would say that nothing is impossible for God! (Luke 1:37) And the reason why God took 6 days in creation is to establish the seven day week (Exodus 20:11). The seven day week has no basis whatsoever outside of Scripture. So these are several reasons why I believe that the earth was created in 6 literal days, just like the Bible tells us. Blessings to you, Makarios |
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2 | time | Acts 1:3 | Sctt | 42603 | ||
Makarios, Ps.90:4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night. The King James Version, (Cambridge: Cambridge) 1769. does this not answer the thousand day , one day priciple. Gen.1:14-19 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for SIGNS, and for SEASONS, and for DAYS, and YEARS: 15And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. 17And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, 18And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. 19And the evening and the morning were the FOURTH DAY. The King James Version, (Cambridge: Cambridge) 1769. God did not divide time into a twenty-four hour day until the fourth day, so the first 3 days could have been much longer then 24 hours. Lets go back to Adam , God said in the DAY that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Is God lying? for Adam lived 930 years. Now if you take the thousand year ,one day principle Adam died before the day was finnished. And if you take the stand that this is a spiritual death are you not then making this allegorical? Now I ask this question because I beleave the whole bible to be both a narritive and allegorical. Did God rest on the seventh day? If so why does Jesus state in Jn.5:17 But Jesus answered them, My Father WORKETH hitherto, and I work. The King James Version, (Cambridge: Cambridge) 1769. Could it not be , because we are now living in the sixth day? and the seventh day is in the near future.Just a thought. In Christ Scott. |
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3 | time | Acts 1:3 | Makarios | 42698 | ||
Greetings Sctt, Even after reading your reply, I still see absolutely no evidence in Genesis or anywhere else in the Bible that leads us to consider that six 'days' meant anything different from six literal days. You have completely lost me in your explanations, and not one of them can venture to vouch any credible resistance against the reasons that I have formally stated for interpreting the book of Genesis literally. You have failed to convince me, unless there is some other reasoning that you are holding back, that would contribute to our discussion of interpreting the Bible at face value rather than trying to imply what it 'might' say, which only invites speculation. Blessings to you, Makarios |
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4 | time | Acts 1:3 | kalos | 42751 | ||
Makarios: You are correct. If anyone else had really wanted to know the facts concerning this matter, they could have found them with very little effort. Notice the text of Genesis 1:5 and accompanying translators notes from the NET. New English Translation Genesis 1:5 God called the light "day" and the darkness "night." There was evening, and there was morning, marking the first day.[22] '[22] Another option is to translate, "Evening came, and then morning came." This formula closes the six days of creation. It seems to follow the Jewish order of reckoning time: from evening to morning. Day one started with the dark, continued through the creation of light, and ended with nightfall. Another alternative would be to translate, "There was night and then there was day, one day." 'The first day. The exegetical evidence suggests the word "day" in this chapter refers to a literal twenty-four hour day. It is true that the word can refer to a longer period of time (see Isa 61:2, or the idiom in 2:4, "in the day," that is, "when"). But this chapter uses "day," "night," "morning," "evening," "years," and "seasons." Consistency would require sorting out how all these terms could be used to express ages. Also, when the Hebrew word yom (oy) is used with a numerical adjective, it refers to a literal day. Furthermore, the commandment to keep the Sabbath clearly favors this interpretation. One is to work for six days and then rest on the seventh, just as God did when he worked at creation' (www.netbible.com). |
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5 | time | Acts 1:3 | Makarios | 42770 | ||
Kalos, Thank you for posting the excellent notes from the NET Bible! This additional material provides ample evidence that the Bible CAN make sense all by itself by reading what the Bible says at face value. Excellent post! - Makarios |
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6 | time | Acts 1:3 | Sctt | 42881 | ||
Hi Makarios see my note attached to Hanks reply. | ||||||
7 | time | Acts 1:3 | Makarios | 42914 | ||
Hello again Sctt! Please see my response to you, dated on Monday 04/08/02 at 11:18am.. I am still awaiting a good response from that post. Blessings to you, Makarios |
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8 | time | Acts 1:3 | Sctt | 43035 | ||
Hi Makarios I'm not saying 930 years is not 930 years , or 6 days not 6 days. What i'm trying to say is that the 930 years of Adam life was less then the (1) day that God told Adam he would die in. When God told Adam he would die in the DAY that he ate of the fruit of the tree Adam died. Adam died at 930 years of age , the bible says in the Day thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. So one DAY is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one DAY 2Pet.3:8KJV , so Adam died before the DAY was completed.So if God makes a differance here in the day of Adams death ,whos to say that He did not also do this on the days of creation? I hope this helps answer the question on 4-8-2. Questions to you , did Adam die in the day God said he would? If your answer is yes does this not show a 1000 year one day principle? In Christ Scott |
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9 | time | Acts 1:3 | Hank | 43037 | ||
Scott, please take a moment to free yourself of your 1,000-year harness and all that symbolism while you mull over the following: You obviously see the 'surely die' words that God spoke to Adam as meaning only Adam's physical death. But did not Adam's disobedience lead also to his separation from God, i.e., by his disobedience Adam actually experienced another kind of death -- spiritual death that came about because of sin? Think about it. --Hank | ||||||
10 | time | Acts 1:3 | Sctt | 43050 | ||
Hi Hank I do beleive that Adam died a spiritual death , but that he also died a natural death as well. Makarios stated that a day is a day,and will not allow for it to be longer then a day(at least that my understaning of what he is saying) ,and I was trying to explain that a day could also represent a 1000 years. If you read all my corispondances to those on this link you will see I beleive there is both a natural and a spiritual application to the scriptures.In Christ Scott |
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