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1 | Supposed to "DO" something? | John 3:3 | 4givn | 91308 | ||
I have started looking for your replies throughout this thread and I must say you have some very interesting thoughts. Are you saying that we must EARN our salvation? My take on this passage is that anyone who is saved will automatically walk in the good works prepared beforehand, with the understanding that we are "God's workmanship". Therefore if WE are HIS work, then that supports what He also said about HIM being "faithful to complete the good work He began" in us. Also, our salvation comes by faith through grace, not of ourselves, "not of works". It is God's "GIFT". The very idea of a "gift" is that it is received. Now if we receive that gift, then what is there to do besides that, because if there is anything ELSE to do it no longer becomes a "gift", and it becomes something else. And that is very unlike the wages of sin that we once "EARNED", which was death. But John 5:24 says that we have passed "from death unto life". I am trying very hard to understand where you are coming from, so please help me if you can, but if you are saying that we must "earn" anything in relation to our salvation, then I must point out to you that is not what the bible teaches us. |
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2 | Supposed to "DO" something? | John 3:3 | Ken hepting | 91322 | ||
I have started looking for your replies throughout this thread and I must say you have some very interesting thoughts. Are you saying that we must EARN our salvation? No, I am not. ----------------------------------- My take on this passage is that anyone who is saved will automatically walk in the good works prepared beforehand, with the understanding that we are "God's workmanship". Therefore if WE are HIS work, then that supports what He also said about HIM being "faithful to complete the good work He began" in us. But that work begins when and if we live by the FAITH of Christ; an impartation of Himself that enables us with vision, purpose and power to accomplish God's plan for us, which is to become a son. ----------------------------- Also, our salvation comes by faith through grace, not of ourselves, "not of works". It is God's "GIFT". True but that's our faith you speak of and not the faith of Christ. My part in the thing is to keep my faith IN Him. By I don't live by my faith, I live by His. His faith is the only FAITH that pleases God and produces the good works that testify to His Character.. My faith comes from hearing His word and takes me to Him for salvation then His Faith comes into me for kingdom living and becoming someone Father can be proud of.. --------------------------------------- The very idea of a "gift" is that it is received. Now if we receive that gift, then what is there to do besides that, because if there is anything ELSE to do it no longer becomes a "gift", and it becomes something else. The example I like to use is the woman withthe issue of Blood who had HER faith developed to the point where she believed Jesus could/would heal her. In her desperation she sought Him out and He did. He said "YOUR faith has made you whole". What He really said was "Your faith brought you to me and was rewarded by me for your healing". We don't knpw what happened after that but her being made whole typifies the way man gets the "free gift"....by coming in faith, believing He will save me. |
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