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1 | Divine Plan | Matt 7:13 | Makarios | 8561 | ||
No, Ezekiel, that is not what we're saying at all. Baptism is important, no doubt, but no where does it say that you must be baptized by water in order to be saved! Baptism by water is an outward and public sign or symbol to show an inward baptism, which is done by the Holy Spirit! And I believe that this inward baptism, or change, comes upon you at the moment of salvation. Therefore, you are dead to your old self now, and must begin anew with Jesus! This is why Jesus says, "You must be born again." Yes, being baptized is very important, and we continue to be led by the Holy Spirit every day, pleasing Him. But we are baptized into His death and Resurrection as soon as we confess Him as Lord of our lives! This is why our 'old self' has been buried with Him in baptism. This is why all believers are in one faith, one baptism. Its all because of Jesus Christ! And I can speak from the experience of this. I can try my best to explain this in English, but it would be much better to do it with the tongue of angels. :) I hope that this sheds a little more light on the subject for you, Ezekiel. Your brother in Christ, Nolan |
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2 | How do we remit | Matt 7:13 | sharp | 8620 | ||
John 20:23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained. How can a person remit another person's sins? (baptized for the remission of sins) does not sound like a sign or symbol. Sharp | ||||||
3 | How do we remit | Matt 7:13 | Makarios | 8622 | ||
sharp, how is it that you can associate John 20:23 in any way with baptism? | ||||||
4 | How do we remit | Matt 7:13 | sharp | 8624 | ||
The only part a man can have in remitting sins is the authority Jesus gives in the command to baptize in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins. | ||||||
5 | How do we remit | Matt 7:13 | Makarios | 8627 | ||
No sharp. The only participation that man has in the remittance of his sins is accepting Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior by faith (Ephesians 2:8). And if a believer wants their sins forgiven, then they must repent of their sins(Acts 3:19). Water baptism has nothing to do with it. Do you want to debate this endlessly? | ||||||
6 | How do we remit | Matt 7:13 | sharp | 8753 | ||
Read Acts 2:38 again, be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins. The instructions in John 20:23 are to those that are given the authority to baptize. John the Baptist showed that responsibility when he refused to baptize Pharisees and Sadducees until he seen evidence of repentance, Matt.3:5 Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan,3:6 And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins. 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: 3:9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. The blood of Jesus was shed for the remission of sins, God's word ties remission of sins to baptism not some idea of man. God had Elijah the prophet tell Naaman, who had leprosy, to dip seven times in the Jordon river to be healed. Naaman was mad but was convinced to give it a try. He was healed, why? the water of the Jordon river! no, becaused he did what the word of the Lord said to do. Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Amen, it is not of ourselves, we simply follow the instructions God gave us. Sharp |
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7 | How do we remit | Matt 7:13 | Morant61 | 8755 | ||
Greetings Sharp! I have been following this thread with interest. Is baptism a necessary for salvation? You seem to be arguing that it is based upon Acts 2:38, "Peter replied, ‘‘Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." Thus, you must be taking the phrase "for the forgiveness of your sins" as expressing the result of repentance and baptism. However, there are three very good reasons to avoid this interpretation of this verse. 1) The rest of Scripture does not make baptism necessary for salvation, including Acts. Consider the following verses from Acts where forgiveness is mentioned and notice that not one of them links forgiveness with baptism. a) Acts 5:31 - "God exalted him to his own right hand as Prince and Savior that he might give repentance and forgiveness of sins to Israel." b) Acts 10:43 - "All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name." c) Acts 13:38-39 - ‘‘Therefore, my brothers, I want you to know that through Jesus the forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you. 39 Through him everyone who believes is justified from everything you could not be justified from by the law of Moses." d) Acts 26:18 - "to open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me." Notice that none of these other verses in Acts tie baptism in with the forgiveness of sins. If baptism were essential to salvation, you would think that it would be mentioned in these other verses as well. 2) There are reasons to believe that "for the forgiveness of sins" does not express result, but rather expresses the ground or reason for baptism. The preposition translated as ‘for’ in Acts 2:38 is sometimes used in this way. Consider the following examples and notice that two of them involve baptism (additional evidence that Acts 2:38 should be translated as "on the basis or grounds of the forgiveness of your sins): a) Matthew 3:11 - "I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me will come one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not fit to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire." b) Matthew 12:41 - "The men of Nineveh will stand up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it; for they repented at the preaching of Jonah, and now one greater than Jonah is here." Allow me to address Mt. 12:41 first. The phrase "repented at the preaching of Jonah" uses the same preposition (eis) as does Acts 2:38. Obviously, the preaching of Jonah was the basis of their repentance, not the other way around. The other example illustrates the same thing and it involves baptism. In Mt. 3:11, baptism did not produce repentance. Rather, repentance was the grounds for baptism. 3) Finally, there is evidence in Acts 2:38 that the middle clause (involving baptism) may be a parenthetical statement. The command to repent is plural. The command to be baptized is singular. This would seems to indicate some break in the chain of thought. If this is the case, the phrase "for the remission of sins" may not even belong with the command to be baptized. No one would debate with you that baptism is important to a believer. However, I just can’t see that baptism is necessary for salvation. There are only a couple of debated Scriptures that even seem to make that case, while the vast majority of Scriptures make it abundantly clear that salvation is through faith alone. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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8 | How do we remit | Matt 7:13 | Hank | 8762 | ||
Excellent exposition of Acts 2:38, Tim. In his study Bible, John MacArthur in his footnote of this verse says of the phrase "for the remission (forgiveness) of sins": This might better be translated 'because of the remission of sins.' Baptism does not produce forgiveness and cleansing from sin. The reality of forgiveness precedes the rite of baptism. Genuine repentence brings from God the forgiveness of sins, and because of that the new believer was to be baptized. Baptism was, however, to be the ever-present act of obedience so that it became synonymous with salvation. Thus to say one was baptized for forgiveness was the same as saying one was saved........ Acts 2:38 is the "proof text" of those who view baptism as absolutely essential to salvation, but as you note, the overwhelming body of Scripture that speaks of salvation does not support the interpretation that Acts 2:38 exchanges water for the blood of Christ as the redemptive agent. Context, proper context, always context! --Hank | ||||||