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1 | What is 'the fruit of the vine'? | Matt 26:29 | RAVEN | 34653 | ||
Romans 14 Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All things indeed are pure, but it is evil for the man who eats with offense. It is good neither to eat meat nor drink wine nor do anything by which your brother stumbles or is offended or is made weak. Do you have faith? Have it to yourself before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves. The scripture Matt 11:1 that you use in defense proves only what others said about Jesus not what Jesus said about Himself. There were many other accusations made also that were untrue. Read again, it says "and they say". A line has been drawn in the sand and we as Christians should stay away from it and not even get close to it. When you say drink in moderation, how does this look to your other christian or non-christian friends. Suppose they see you do it and then they do it and have a problem with controling it. Then because of your actions you have caused someone to fall (sin). Matthew 18 Jesus Warns of Offenses * "Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea. Woe to the world because of offenses! For offenses must come, but woe to that man by whom the offense comes! The above scripture that says "little ones" is not refering to a child as we think of a child but it means children of God, for it says they believe. Its used the same way in 1 John 2:1 My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. Now back to the subject.... You have to accept that Jesus was pure and did nothing wrong and would never have contributed to the wrong doing of one of His followers. 1 Peter 2 "Who committed no sin, Nor was deceit found in His mouth"; If you belive as you have stated that Jesus drank wine in its alcholic form then you have just blown the whole plan of salvation. Habakkuk 2 "Woe to him who gives drink to his neighbor, Pressing him to your bottle, Even to make him drunk, That you may look on his nakedness! As I stated the last time the bible does not contradict itself. So therefore we cannot take the scriptures and twist them to fit the lifestyle we want. We must conform to it, not the other way around. 2 Timothy 3 and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work |
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2 | What is 'the fruit of the vine'? | Matt 26:29 | Hank | 34659 | ||
Good post, Raven! No one yet has even been able to define what they really mean by the word "moderation" when they apply it to the volume of alcohol that is "safe" to consume. I have known many people who said they were moderate drinkers, and I have seen many of these same people get as drunk as fiddlers on a regular basis. There is a wide amount of pretense, denial, and refusal to look squarely at the facts to be found among drinkers and proponents of drinking. They are either ignorant of or simply choose to ignore the darker sides of alcohol consumption: the carnage on our highways, the broken homes and orphaned children, the serious health damage, the economic losses, the pain and misery inflicted upon both the user of alcohol and his friends and family. The pat answer always is, "Oh, but you are talking about the abuse of alcohol, not the use of it." But those who take this position are at a loss to define the line at which use becomes abuse. And perhaps the crucial question we should ask (and especially Christians) is not, "How much alcohol consumption is moderate and "safe"? but "Why do I feel I want to drink, or indeed need to drink, in the first place? For Christians in particular, is there truly a void in our lives that we need to fill with alcohol? If there is, that Christian had better get alone with God and do serious business with Him! --Hank | ||||||
3 | What is 'the fruit of the vine'? | Matt 26:29 | EdB | 34662 | ||
Hank GOOD Word!!!!!! EdB |
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