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1 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Jesusman | 33320 | ||
Hello, Seth was the appointed offspring through the prophecy in Genesis 3:15, not appointed through being the firstborn. The prophecy in Genesis 3:15 states that an offspring from the woman will bruise the head of the serpent, which identifies Christ. Dr. Luke provides the geneology that takes Jesus through Solomon's brother nathan, thus fulfilling the prophecy of the messiah being of David's line, then takes it back through Abraham, then to Noah, then to Seth, then Adam, and finally God. The line could not have been through Cain due to him being cursed. It could not have been Abel due to his death. Therefore, it must have been through Seth, and Genesis 4:25-26 tells us that Seth was "appointed" to begin the messianic line since his birth. As for Genesis 4:26, and the "proclaim" meaning "profain". I haven't been able to find any support for that. In fact, the same language has been used in Psalms 116:13-17, Zephaniah 3:9, and Zechariah 13:9. All of these passages refer to believers and followers of God calling out to him in worship and through salvation. It is more likely that the usage in Genesis 4:26 is similar in meaning to these others that are mentioned. As for Seth being a Godly line, there is evidence that his descendants were followers of God. Enoch, and Noah for example are two that are listed as obeying God. So, since these two obeyed God, and that there are some listed between them, it is reasonable to assume that the belief and obedience to God was passed down from Father to Son, possibly beginning with Adam, Eve, and Seth. This can be also supported with Eve's comments concerning Seth's birth. She attributes his Birth to God. An unbeliever and sinner wouldn't openly do that. Therefore, there is some support for thinking that Eve, and possibly Adam as well, reformed their belief and obedience to God. Then you have the meaning of "Sons of God" and "Daughters of man". While this is referring to Male offspring and Female offspring, I believe it also carries an implied meaning as well. Declaring that you are "of 'someone" did not always mean that you were related to him. It also meant that you followed that person in allegience or in thought, belief, and etc. A perfect example of this is found in the Pauline epistles. I think it was to the Corinthians that he said something like, "there are those who say, 'I am of Paul. I am of Apollos. I am of Cephas.' I say be none of that, but be of Jesus Christ." I think this is implied into Genesis 6:1-4. On one hand, You have the male members who were obedient to God and Worshipped him. They were "of God". On the other hand, you have the female members who indulged in the desires of the flesh, and disobeyed God. They were "of Man". The males saw the females as beautiful, and took them as wives. Jesus Loves You! Jesusman |
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2 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | The Disciple | 33679 | ||
Jesusman, EXCELLENT assesment indeed. YET, "banah adam".....no implications here ?? Using the NT references of "being of" is a far stretch of what was being stated in the OT as of being from the lineage of. I cannot assume like you did in these references. The language doesnt support this type of assumption. Male members who were obedient and female members who indulged in the desires of the flesh and disobeyed God? As far as Gods point of VIEW of mankind ...it was totally depraved. If not, then Jesus didnt need to die for us. Since, mankind is totally depraved, then, the union of sons and daughters has to be the FOCAL point of the whole issue. Who the sons were and who the daughters were. BUT we have all gone through this over and over... and since we cannot come to an agreement that what we (us/them) see is not what we (them/us) see and both views offer up some enlightening study. I believe we can live together on these differences. I must say this was very intriguing and infomative indeed. We have both agreed on one thing, I noticed. That being diligent in the study of the Word can profit us (them/you/me) much. In that respects (diligence) I do believe the Lord will say, "Well done my good and faithful servant..." *SHALOM* the Disciple |
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3 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Jesusman | 33912 | ||
Hello, As for "banah adam", sorry don't see much there other than stating that the line starts with adam, but then again, Cain's line started with Adam as well. As for the NT references and their meanings being used in Genesis, true, I did use the New testament to prove a point. Then again, the point that I made is one that is used all throughout the Bible, not just in the New testament. What I did was to apply a meaning that is consistant throughout the Bible. As for obedience verses "totally depraved", a person can be a sinner, and still be obedient to God. Take Abraham for example. Abraham was human, a sinner, and totally Depraved by default. He started out being totally depraved, yet he still obeyed God when God told him to go. True, Abraham slipped up a time or two, but he was still obedient. Now, I'm not saying that the "Sons of God" in Genesis 6 were as perfect and obedient as Jesus. I'm saying that they were as obedient to God as a human could be, especially in comparrison to the "Daughters of Men". Jesusman |
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4 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | The Disciple | 33938 | ||
Well, since you did bring it up again. HEHEHEHE "banah adam" is in reference to the line of Adam. But doesn't chapter 4 state the inference to the line of Cain no longer being a part of the program anymore? (His being cast out) Then Chapter 5 bieng the Line of Adam (Seth as NOW THE FIRSTBORN-HEIR) with NO reference to Cain? Thereby, all notations to mankind being stated are specifically from the Line of Adam (Seth)? If so, then all thinking in chapter 6 has to have the "daughters of men" being the line of Seth. I believe this is the place of a few that we differ. I suppose I caould be reading each chapter incorrectly and taking contrivances for granted. But It sure looks feasible. *shalom* the Disciple |
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