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1 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Jesusman | 33024 | ||
Hello, I would say that Genesis 6:1-4 is summerizing the events of Chapter 4 and 5, and providing the basis for why the flood was coming. Chapter 4, as you have pointed out, discusses the line of Cain and his cursing. Chapter 5, more appropriately, discusses the line of Seth, not the line of Adam. Because cain was also Adam's son, cursed he maybe, but still a son. Therefore, chapter 4 is also talking about Adam's line. To narrow it down, chapter 4 is talking about cain's line, and chapter 5 is talking about seth's line. Chapter 6 provides the reasons why the flood was coming. The two lines intermarried, sin grew, and man became more sinful in his actions. As a result, God cursed man to live only for 120 years, told Noah to build an ark, and eventually sent the flood to cleanse the earth. So, in Genesis 6:1-4 alone, you have the line of seth, which remained obedient to God, being represented as the "Son's of God", and the line of Cain, which was cursed and sinful, being represented as the "Daughters of Men". The line of Seth saw that the women of Cain's line were beautiful, and they took them as wives. As a result, the sons from seth's line dived deeper into sin, and began to fulfill their fleshly desires. God became angered by this, cursed man to only live for 120 years, and had noah to prepare for the flood. Due to Noah's faithfulness, he was spared from the curse of limited age, and was given the chance to keep the line of Seth alive, thus saving mankind from extinction. Jesusman |
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2 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | The Disciple | 33175 | ||
Jesusman, Chapter 5 isnt discussing the line of Adam???? vs 1, "This is the book of the genealogy of Adam..." This truly tells me this is speaking of the line of Adam. Chapter 4 ends with Seth's birth as the "appointed seed". (vs25) Born to Seth was Enosh...vs 26, ".. Then men began to call on the name of the Lord." When you carefully study this verse, you will find, "Then men started to proclaim (profane) the name of God." That in itself is a very provocative study. I am bewildered still by your thought that the "daughters of men" are the line of Cain. The words themsleves, spell out ...the feminin offspring of Adam. Cain was denounced from the lineage and Seth was given the "appointment". Or we could also say he became the "heir apparant" or "firstborn"?? Chapter 5 cannot be seen as having any relation to the lineage of Cain. "daughters of men" - banah adam Not sure what more you need to see, this looks more like the line Seth is from in chp 5. Especially when in chapter 4 Cain has been dismissed from any appointment. *Blessings* D |
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3 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Jesusman | 33320 | ||
Hello, Seth was the appointed offspring through the prophecy in Genesis 3:15, not appointed through being the firstborn. The prophecy in Genesis 3:15 states that an offspring from the woman will bruise the head of the serpent, which identifies Christ. Dr. Luke provides the geneology that takes Jesus through Solomon's brother nathan, thus fulfilling the prophecy of the messiah being of David's line, then takes it back through Abraham, then to Noah, then to Seth, then Adam, and finally God. The line could not have been through Cain due to him being cursed. It could not have been Abel due to his death. Therefore, it must have been through Seth, and Genesis 4:25-26 tells us that Seth was "appointed" to begin the messianic line since his birth. As for Genesis 4:26, and the "proclaim" meaning "profain". I haven't been able to find any support for that. In fact, the same language has been used in Psalms 116:13-17, Zephaniah 3:9, and Zechariah 13:9. All of these passages refer to believers and followers of God calling out to him in worship and through salvation. It is more likely that the usage in Genesis 4:26 is similar in meaning to these others that are mentioned. As for Seth being a Godly line, there is evidence that his descendants were followers of God. Enoch, and Noah for example are two that are listed as obeying God. So, since these two obeyed God, and that there are some listed between them, it is reasonable to assume that the belief and obedience to God was passed down from Father to Son, possibly beginning with Adam, Eve, and Seth. This can be also supported with Eve's comments concerning Seth's birth. She attributes his Birth to God. An unbeliever and sinner wouldn't openly do that. Therefore, there is some support for thinking that Eve, and possibly Adam as well, reformed their belief and obedience to God. Then you have the meaning of "Sons of God" and "Daughters of man". While this is referring to Male offspring and Female offspring, I believe it also carries an implied meaning as well. Declaring that you are "of 'someone" did not always mean that you were related to him. It also meant that you followed that person in allegience or in thought, belief, and etc. A perfect example of this is found in the Pauline epistles. I think it was to the Corinthians that he said something like, "there are those who say, 'I am of Paul. I am of Apollos. I am of Cephas.' I say be none of that, but be of Jesus Christ." I think this is implied into Genesis 6:1-4. On one hand, You have the male members who were obedient to God and Worshipped him. They were "of God". On the other hand, you have the female members who indulged in the desires of the flesh, and disobeyed God. They were "of Man". The males saw the females as beautiful, and took them as wives. Jesus Loves You! Jesusman |
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4 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Love Fountain | 33590 | ||
Dear Jesusman, You said,"As for Genesis 4:26, and the "proclaim" meaning "profain". I haven't been able to find any support for that. Enos. (Genesis 4:26.) "Calling on the Name of the Lord. This Is Appendix 21 From The Companion Bible. "Then began men to call upon the name of Jehovah." If this refers to Divine worship it is not true: for Abel and Cain both began, and their descendants doubtless followed their example. What was really begun was the profanation of the Name of Jehovah. They began to call something by the Name of Jehovah. The Authorized Version suggests "themselves", in the margin. But the majority of the ancient Jewish commentators supply the Ellipsis by the words "their gods"; suggesting that they called the stars and idols their gods, and worshipped them. The Targum of Onkelos explains it: "then in his days the sons of men desisted from praying in the Name of the Lord." The Targum of Jonathan says: "That was the generation in whose days they began to err, and to make themselves idols, and surnamed their idols by the Name of the Word of the Lord." Kimchi, Rashi, and other ancient Jewish commentators agree with this. Rashi says: "Then was there profanation in calling on the Name of the Lord." Jerome says that this was the opinion of many Jews in his days. Maimonides, in his Commentary on the Mishna (a constituent part of the Talmud), A.D. 1168, in a long treatise on idolatry, gives the most probable account of the origin of idolatry in the days of Enos. The name Enos agrees with this; for his name means frail, weak, sickly, incurable. The sons of men, as "Enosh", are so called for a similar reason (Job 7:17; 15:14. Psalm 9:20; 103:15. Daniel 2:43). (See Appendix 14) If Jonathan, the grandson of Moses, became the first idolatrous priest in Israel (see notes on Judges 18:30), what wonder that Enos, the grandson of Adam, introduced idolatry among mankind. Moreover, what "ungodliness" did Enoch, "the seventh from Adam" have to prophesy about in Jude 14, 15, if purity of worship was begun in the days of Enos, instead of profanation in calling on the Name of the Lord? Surely this is sufficient evidence that this profanation of the Name of the Lord was the reason why Enoch was raised up to prophesy against it. I hope this is the support you were looking for. Bless you, Love Fountain |
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5 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Jesusman | 33913 | ||
Hello, Support? No! Something to look into? Yes! On a side note concerning Enoch's prophecy, it is clear that the Cain and his decendants were sinful. Couldn't his prophecy be concerning them? Jesusman |
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