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1 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Jesusman | 31100 | ||
Hello, I must disagree with parts of what was stated. As for your insight into Genesis 4:24, I have not come across that before. I'll check into it. As for Seth's line perishing in the flood, this is incorrect. Noah, being a decendant of Seth, carried on the Line. The Line of Seth continued. As for Genesis 6 not referring to the line of Seth, there is stronger support for the line of Seth than there is for the possibility of it being angels. As I have shown throughout this thread, the thought that Angels married humans is not only not supported in Scripture, but goes against the Scripture as well. Then you have the fact that angels are never identified directly as the "sons of God". As for the Niphillim, the text reveals that they existed at the time. Nothing, other than it being a time reference, can be concluded from the text of genesis 6. The only other usage for "niphillim" is in Numbers 13. Due to the great flood separating the historical context of these two passages, it is highly unlikely that the two passages are of talking about the same group of niphillim. At best, the term "niphillim" can be descriptive in nature. As for Matthew 24:37, the point Jesus was trying to make is that his coming will be unexpected, as he explains in the following verses. This isn't connected to the topic at hand. At best, the idea that Angels came to earth, against God's will, mated with humans, and produced superhumans is pure conjecture and is not, nor can be supported in any fashion. The only explaination for this passage is that it is referring to the Line of Seth which will ultimately bring the Christ to us, as is noted in the Geneology in Luke. Jesus Loves You! Jesusman |
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2 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Servant7 | 31112 | ||
Greetings in The Lord, JMan, If you will briefly review my post to Decipled, you will find I stated "aside from Noah". The plurality of the phrase "sons of God" in Gen 6 is what i am refrencing. They all did perish in the flood (again, aside from Noah). Only 8 individuals were found worthy not to perish. And again I say, "Heavenly Bodies" does not refer to a man ever in the word; Therefore, to assume it does now is also cojecture. I wholeheartedly disagree with you on this topic, but my love for you brother, goes without saying. You truly seek to enlighten through the word, by diligent study. That is the heart of a servant. As always a pleasure, In Christ, Servant7 |
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3 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Jesusman | 31122 | ||
Hello, I did view you post correctly. The context of Genesis 6:1-4 takes place prior, if not around the same time as Noah. Besides, there was a long time between Noah getting the command to build the ark and the time that the flood came. That also needs to be taken into concideration as well. As for "heavenly bodies", the passage doesn't say that. It says "sons of God". The question is "Who are the 'sons of God'?" As I have continuously pointed out during this thread, the sons of God are first the Lineage of Seth, and, in a larger sense, the messianic line. Feel free to disagree with me. However, the point still remains, upon careful research, angels cannot be the Sons of God in Genesis 6. Jesus Loves You! Jesusman |
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4 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Servant7 | 31221 | ||
Heavenly Bodies would be the literal translation of "Bene Ha Elohim". Study a little deeper and you will find the time line from Gen 6:2 to the flood was 120 years. Study a little more and tell me how long you believe a generation was pre-flood. As we look into Gen 6, we will naturally see that Noah was probably alive throughout this time. Read the last verse of Gen 5.The word covers Noahs geneology in verse 10 of Gen 6. The only purpose Gen5:32 could possibly serve is to set a time frame for Gen 6. Let us not forget that the translators added chapters and verses for readability. The original Hebrew did not. Take out the word Chapter(6) out of your Bible, read chapter 5 and 6 through, and you will recieve a feel for how it is written, and it's context. I've truly come to enjoy your responses brother; I look forward to your next post. In Christ, Servant7 |
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5 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Jesusman | 31365 | ||
Hello, No, "sons of God" would be a literal translation. "Heavenly Bodies" is a matter of interpretation. This also goes into the area of syntax and textual critisicm, of which I admit for not being entirely familiar with in the Hebrew. While I am familiar with Hebrew grammer, the areas of Hebrew Syntax and Hebrew Textual Critisicm are areas where I need to do more research. I have heard the argument that "heavenly bodies" would be acceptable in Genesis 6, but this is primarily based upon similar usage in Job 1 and 2, which I shown to be questionable in certain ways. Besides all of this, the foundational question remains unanswerable: where does it clearly say in the Bible that Angels are identified as the Sons of God? On top of that, all of the verses provided thus far to support that angels had relations with humans has been given an entirely different interpretation, one that seems to fit closer with the context. Jesus Loves You! Jesusman |
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6 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Love Fountain | 31367 | ||
Dear Jesusman, Gen 6:1-2 The sons of God (bene 'Elohim)... daughters of men. Wickedness was increasing on every hand. Cain's descendants became exceedingly godless and pagan. A powerful race of giants, called "Nephilim," came into prominence. The verb (napal), "to fall," has been considered the source of the noun, and so these gigantic creatures have been thought of as "fallen ones." The reference to the (bene 'Elohim) has occasioned marked differences of opinion among scholars. ('Elohim) is plural in form. It is usually translated "God." But it can be translated "gods," as, for instance, when it refers to the gods of the heathen neighbors of Israel. It can, also, denote the heavenly circle of beings in close fellowship with Jehovah, residents of heaven, assigned specific duties as God's assistants (see Job 1:6). In some cases in Scripture "sons of God" may be identified with "angels" or "messengers." Jesus is the Son of God in a unique sense. Believers are called "sons of God" because of their relationship to him. In the OT, however, "sons of God" are a special class of beings that make up the heavenly court. The reference to the marriages of (bene 'Elohim) to the daughters of men has been dealt with in many ways. To translate it literally would make the passage say that members of the heavenly company selected choice women from the earth and set up marriage relationships with them, literally and actually. This can be the only interpretation of Job 1:6. There, the (bene 'Elohim) were plainly the members of God's heavenly court. S. R. Driver maintains that this is the only legitimate and correct sense that can be accepted. (from The Wycliffe Bible Commentary, Electronic Database. Copyright (c) 1962 by Moody Press) Bless you, Love Fountain |
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7 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Jesusman | 31373 | ||
Before I reply to this quotation, again, perhaps you should read my reply below. Jesusman |
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