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1 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | The Disciple | 30340 | ||
Blessings All, I have been reading with supreme interest all that has been posted about these passages. What a wonderful study it is indeed. First, I will not presume to know all the answers in these passages nor I hope not to sound dogmatic in what I may state to presume or suggest. I do have a question about vs.4, "There were giants on the earth in those days(a), AND ALSO AFTERWARD, when the sons of God came in to the dauthers of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown." a) "those days" is x-ref'd to: Num13:32,33 Nephilim is used in both instances. Rephaim is used to define the descendants of Goliath. 2Sam21:15-22, Gen 15:20. The Anakim were from the Rephaim? who were from the Nephilim? Long and ardusous study for those who like to find caveats. "AND ALSO AFTERWARD"... afterward of what? Post flood ? Since this chapter and the surrounding paragraphs deal with the coming of the flood. Then isnt it safe to assume that "after" the flood is being discussed also? As for Job 1 and 2: Job 1:6,7, "Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them. And the Lord said to Satan,'From where do you come?' So Satan answered the Lord and said, "From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it." The Lord asked Satan "from WHERE do you COME?". Does this not mean, Satan was somewhere else as opposed to the place he is now? If so, then he came from earth. If this be the case then where is he when he presents himself with the others "sons of God"? This looks to be Heaven, since they came to GOD. We know this by seeing "they came to present themselves before the Lord"...not "The Lord came to them." This is more than likely a heavenly meeting, thus, no humans? Back to Gen 6: "Those were the mightly men..." Who were those? Would they not be whom was dicussed just prior ? Those born to the women and the sons of God? I shall break for now, and will look for posts from this and continue from there. But I would like to say, the "sons of God" are looking very much like heavenly beings. As defined from the Oldest Book found by man. ...Lord dont let us convolute the story... *SHALOM* D ps: use the search tool above and type in Gen 6:4, then click on Can angels have human babies? and check out the posts made therein. |
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2 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Jesusman | 30447 | ||
Hello, Welcome to the free for all! :) Just kidding! Anyway, to get on to the topic at hand. To answer your questions about the Niphillim of Genesis 6 and of Numbers 13, they cannot be of the ancestry. Why? The Flood. The flood separates the Two. The Niphillim of Genesis 6 is pre-flood. It isn'e safe to assume that this was post-flood, because the events leading up to the flood and God's reasons for the flood isn't explained until AFTER the Niphillim are mentioned. This proves that the Niphillim and the events of Genesis 6:1-4 are pre-flood. As for the "After what", this is in reference to the "Sons" marrying the "Daughters". The Niphillim were already in existance before this took place, and existed after this happened. As for Job 1 and 2, yes, it is possible that it is a heavenly meeting. However, you must deal with the following questions. 1) If it is heaven, then why is Satan there, since he was kicked out of heaven? 2) If these are angels, then why does Job become the immediate topic? Why not one of the angels? 3) If these are angels, why is there no reference calling angels "sons of God"? Especially when Hebrews 1:5 says otherwise? As of the "mighty men of Old and Men of renown", they were obviously the offspring of the "Sons" and "Daughters". I clarified much of this in my original post. Jesus Loves You! Jesusman |
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3 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Makarios | 30450 | ||
Greetings Jesusman! I want to thank you on consistently writing some excellent and "clear minded" material on the subject of Genesis 6:4! I am in complete agreement with you that the "sons of God" mentioned in Genesis 6:4 is referring to the Godly line of Seth who intermarried with the daughters of men, rather than having angels procreate with human women.. It is a refreshment for me to see that there is now another user here at this Forum who sees this verse in much the same light as I do and not willing to let these claims of 'angels' being the 'sons of God' in Gen. 6:4 go unchecked! Thank you, my fellow brother in Christ, and excellent work here, my friend! Blessings to you, Nolan |
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4 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Jesusman | 30454 | ||
Thanks for the comments, Nolan. This is a real problem for me. I am one who cannot accept anything without solid proof behind it. I even put John Calvin and Calvinism to the test once. I came to the conclusion that if Calvin had the Alexandrian texts, the Dead Sea Scrolls, and other recently found manuscripts, his doctrinal teachings would've been different. But that's another topic I wish not to go into further discussion about. Jesusman |
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5 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Makarios | 30464 | ||
Greetings Jesusman! Yes, that is another topic that I have written much on, and I will not willingly engage in that debate again, unless I'm dragged kicking and screaming.. :-) Blessings to you, Nolan |
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6 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Jesusman | 30467 | ||
Amen, Brother. Amen! Jesusman |
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7 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | The Disciple | 30499 | ||
Jesusman, Check out my post attached to my last one to you. I should have attached it to one of your own...so you would receive it in your email. sorry. D |
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