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1 | Are new worship songs scripturally OK? | Bible general Archive 1 | greenbem | 22101 | ||
Please help me. I attend many contemporary Christian worship services. I often have difficulty understanding the lyrics. Some examples: 1. "Let the river flow" 2. "Let your fire fall" 3. "Dance with me Jesus" I don't understand the lyrics to these songs and it makes my worship experience less than optimal. I finally put my foot down with the "Dance with me Jesus" worship song and now I have the Pastor and elders in conflict over the spiritual accuracy of asking Jesus to dance with us...not what I had intended at all! Does anyone else have difficulty over the spiriual accuracy of these songs? Do I really want Jesus to dance with me? Can I stop the river's flow? Isn't the fire falling from God a symbol of His judgment? Do I want any of these things aspart of my worship experiences? Please advise. Blessings! Bud Greenberg PSALM 133 |
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2 | Are new worship songs scripturally OK? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 22916 | ||
Bud I think you brought up an interesting subject. I agree with many post here that the problem isn’t new or old but rather the lyrics. So many songs today are sung about us, what we are going to do, who we are etc. Where is the worship of God in that? “I’m going into the enemies camp and take back what he stole from me” or “going up to high places” These are totally absurd, we aren’t doing anything Christ did it all. Other songs are talking to Satan, what going to happen to him or what we are going to do to him and etc. Again where is the worship of God in that? “Satan you under my foot”. Wouldn’t we enjoy it if our friends came to sing our praise and kept mentioning our enemies name? Other songs are like some calling the Holy Spirit like one would call a cat. “Come Holy Spirit” “Anointing fall on us”. We have all the Holy Spirit we are going to get, we need to learn to yield to Him to allow Him to move through us. God is majestic, high and lifted up and is to be praise worshipped and adored. He is to be the focus of our worship not just included as another aspect. I believe Pastors are going to answer one day for what they have allowed to be sung in their churches. I do think the problem is more prevalent today, most hymns started out to be a form of scripture memorization. Where various scriptures were set to music to help or aid in memorizing them. Later many Hymns were a personal confession or act of worship that later got set to music. Today most are written to make money for the writer and I think certain liberties are taken, in the name of speed or convenience, or to make them more marketable. EdB |
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3 | Are new worship songs scripturally OK? | Bible general Archive 1 | kalos | 22956 | ||
"Nowhere does Scripture state that believers have authority over Satan himself." EdB, I totally agree with you when you write: "Other songs are talking to Satan, what going to happen to him or what we are going to do to him and etc. Again where is the worship of God in that? “Satan you under my foot”." For the benefit of the readers, may I add something (in agreement with you) that relates to this subject? I do not sing songs to or about Satan. I never join in when others are singing the chorus referring to Satan, "He's under my feet, He's under my feet." I don't think so. The believer's authority has been much overstated. The notion that people can order Satan about when they can't even get their kids to do what they tell them is truly astonishing. "Elliot Miller writes: "The biblical evidence suggesting that believers have been given direct authority over the demonic realm is scantier than is usually supposed. Neil T. Anderson applies Matthew 12:29 (“first binds the strong man”) to believers, when it is obvious from the preceding seven verses that Jesus was referring to Himself alone. Matthew 18:18 (“bind” and “loose”) refers to church discipline, not spiritual warfare, as the larger context makes entirely clear. Anderson uses Ephesians 1:18-21 (Christ is seated above all authorities and powers) combined with Ephesians 2:5-6 (believers are seated with Him) as proof of the believer’s authority over the devil. But rather than dealing with spiritual warfare, these passages speak of Christ’s exaltation by the Father and the believer’s acceptance and exaltation before the Father in Christ.” One should therefore be careful not to infer too much from them. "Nowhere does Scripture state that believers have authority over Satan himself. Those biblical passages that do speak of believers’ authority over the demonic realm apply strictly to driving demons out of lost human beings (Matt. 10:1; Mark 6:7; Luke 10:19; Acts 8:7). They are never applied to pastoral counseling or the believer’s personal battle with the devil. "This does not mean Christians must accept defeat in spiritual warfare. Scripture clearly teaches that Jesus has won the victory over the devil and all authority has been given to Him (Matt. 28:18; Eph. 1:20-22; Col. 2:15; 1 Pet. 3:22; etc.). While believers do not have the prerogative to say, “I command you, Satan (to do this or not do that),” Jesus does. Believers are indeed positionally seated with Him in heavenly places and are thus made partakers in His victory. They therefore can be confident that if they resist the devil, he will flee from them (James 4:7)" (www.equip.org/search/). (The Bondage Maker: Examining the Message and Method of Neil T. Anderson (Part Two: Spiritual Warfare And The “Truth Encounter”) by Elliot Miller. Available to read online at www.equip.org/search/) |
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4 | Are new worship songs scripturally OK? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 22994 | ||
Well said Kalos and might I add (in agreement with you) that this false teaching that we have authority over Satan is actually giving Satan entrance rather than defeat. People are spending more time talking to Satan than they are to God. EdB |
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5 | Are new worship songs scripturally OK? | Bible general Archive 1 | kalos | 23004 | ||
Yes, Ed, I agree with you. And to make it worse, this false teaching is reinforced by unbiblical choruses making a joke out of Satan. Instead of learning every new projected-off-the-wall chorus that comes down the pike, we ought to be learning Scripture. For example, we see in Jude 1: 8 Likewise also these dreamers defile the flesh, reject authority, and speak evil of dignitaries. 9 Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!" (NKJV) |
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6 | Are new worship songs scripturally OK? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 23011 | ||
Kalos Preach it brother and then go to 2 Peter 2:10-14 "and especially those who indulge the flesh in its corrupt desires and despise authority. Daring, self-willed, they do not tremble when they revile angelic majesties, [11] whereas angels who are greater in might and power do not bring a reviling judgment against them before the Lord. [12] But these, like unreasoning animals, born as creatures of instinct to be captured and killed, reviling where they have no knowledge, will in the destruction of those creatures also be destroyed, [13] suffering wrong as the wages of doing wrong. They count it a pleasure to revel in the daytime. They are stains and blemishes, reveling in their deceptions, as they carouse with you, [14] having eyes full of adultery and that never cease from sin, enticing unstable souls, having a heart trained in greed, accursed children;" See Kalos we do agree from time to time :-) Be Blessed my Brother Ed |
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7 | Are new worship songs scripturally OK? | Bible general Archive 1 | kalos | 23013 | ||
Ed: Of course we agree from time to time. :-) Even when we don't agree, it doesn't change the fact that you are my esteemed brother in Christ. Good scripture quote there, Ed. Grace, kalos |
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