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1 | One God, One Jesus Christ | 1 Cor 8:5 | Ray | 132118 | ||
Hi Tim, I understand that you are not interested at the moment in capitalization. However, I think that you are needlessly fighting for the idea that there are no gods. What you should be stressing, IMO, is that there are no OTHER GODS. What the Scriptures teach is that Jehovah says "There is no God besides Me." My fear is that you will feel called upon to declare that there are no other "lords". Deuteronomy 10:17, "For the Lord your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality nor takes a bribe." The Scriptures that you gave me, Isa 44:6, 45:5 and 46:9, do not have the "OTHER GODS" phrase that I am looking for. I think that capitalization is important in discussing Scriptures with the Jehovah's Witnesses because of John 1:1. We do not want them to think that Jesus was a god, indeed a strange god, among us when He came to earth. John 1:2, "This One was in the beginning with God." From the heart, Ray |
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2 | One God, One Jesus Christ | 1 Cor 8:5 | Morant61 | 132126 | ||
Greetings Ray! I understand your point my friend. However, the Hebrew says, 'There is no other elohim but me'. Big 'G' or little 'g' doesn't make any difference in this context. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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3 | One God, One Jesus Christ | 1 Cor 8:5 | Ray | 132144 | ||
Hi Tim, The only context of "There is no other elohim but me" that I am aware of is your Isaiah 45:21 reference. The verse is surrounded by occasions of "there is no other", "none else", "none except Me"; but the 45:21 reference is the only one for "There is no "other" God besides Me." The NWT of the Jehovah's Witness says this: Isaiah 45:21, "[Who] has reported it from that very time? Is it not I, Jehovah, besides whom there is no other God; a rigteous God and a Savior, there being none excepting me?" The question is "Who has reported it?" A question for you Tim, how do you interpret Isaiah 45:19? Would you go with the NKJ "I declare things that are right" or with the NASB "Declaring things that are right"? From the heart, Ray |
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4 | No other God besides Me? | 1 Cor 8:5 | Ray | 134889 | ||
Are there any other verses besides Isaiah 45:21 that reads, "there is no other God besides Me". Or as the KJ reads, "there is no God else besides me". From the heart, Ray |
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5 | No other God besides Me? | 1 Cor 8:5 | mark d seyler | 134893 | ||
Hi Ray, Here are a few you can peruse, all from Isaiah: 43:10, 44:6, 44:8, 45:5, 45:18, 45:21, 45:22, and 46:9. All of these record God's own claim that He is the only God, and there is none other. Love in Christ, Mark |
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6 | No other God besides Me? | 1 Cor 8:5 | Ray | 134913 | ||
Hi Mark, Thank you for the Scriptures. None of them except Isaiah 45:21 have what I am looking for; the words in order of "no other God besides Me". Isaiah 44:8 says "Is there any God besides Me? Or is there any other Rock? I know of none." So that is close to what I am looking for because it has "any God besides"; but what I am looking for is "no other God besides". Isaiah 45:21 has "no other God besides" but it is the only one that I know of so far. My point or hypothesis is that this verse should have a lower case "elohim" (meaning gods) in the verse. So I would interpret the verse as saying, "Is it not I, the Lord? And there is no other besides Me." This is what the verses in the chapter are saying: 45:6, "I am the Lord, and there is no other." 45:22, "...For I am God, and there is no other." 1) If "elohim" is in the Hebrew manuscript and is not merely implied, then I would interpret Isaiah 45:22, "Is it not I, the Lord? And there is no other gods besides Me." We do have "no other gods besides me" in the Scriptures, notably Exodus 20:3, "You shall have no other gods before [Or, besides] Me." Thank you for your help. I hope that I am clear in what I am saying and looking for. From the heart, Ray |
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7 | No other God besides Me? | 1 Cor 8:5 | mark d seyler | 134928 | ||
Hi Ray, I thought I was responding to an original question, and I did not realize this was part of an ongoing discussion. I've now re-read your question in context to the thread, and I think I understand what you are seeking. I know of no other scriptures that use those words in that order, however, the Bible seems clear in it's statements if taken in totality. There are many things that are called gods. There is only one real God. Jesus is the only God, and He came to earth as a Man. The cultist who argues, being willfully deceived, will argue against any Biblical proof endlessly. I admire, commend, and pray for you, Tim, Hank, and others who faithfully offer apologetics to those who would try to subvert the gospel and this forum. God bless you! Love in Christ, Mark |
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