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1 | Are those He called always chosen? | Rom 8:30 | Morant61 | 14222 | ||
Greetings Joe! Actually, I haven't read as much of Augustine as I should. I have read some, but it would be a good study to go back and read some more of his works. Well, at least we have narrowed this thread down some! :-) Let me ask you about Judas! I see a couple of reasons why I can't buy your statement about Judas. 1) The verse says that He chose all twelve. So, how can you distinguish between Judas and the rest? 2) Mark 13:20 uses this word to describe the "elect." So, why would it not have that meaning here? Thanks again for your peaceful spririt my friend! We may never see eye to eye on this issue, (which we both agree is an important issue) but we are still brothers in Christ. I have many friends and even family members who believe as you do. My father-in-law is an American Baptist pastor. I have even preached and taught at Baptist churches. Hopefully, this thread will illustrate to others that two people can disagree without being disagreeable. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Are those He called always chosen? | Rom 8:30 | Reformer Joe | 14360 | ||
Tim: 1) The part that says "yet one of you is a devil" is enough distinguishing for me. I think you agree that Jesus didn't select these disciples for salvation in this context. 2)Perhaps it is just late, but I don't understand the point of your question here. Pleas elaborate for me. --Joe! |
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3 | Are those He called always chosen? | Rom 8:30 | Morant61 | 14374 | ||
Hi Joe! I was just trying to clarify why we limit the word "eklegomai" in John 6:70 to the call to be an apostle, while in Mark 13:20 it refers to salvation. I have heard both views before (Apostle or Salvation. I'm not sure which one I think is more likely. I lean toward it referring to salvation (not because I'm Arminian), because the context of the passage has to do with eternal life. But, I can see the other side as well. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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