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1 | time | Acts 1:3 | Sctt | 42603 | ||
Makarios, Ps.90:4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night. The King James Version, (Cambridge: Cambridge) 1769. does this not answer the thousand day , one day priciple. Gen.1:14-19 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for SIGNS, and for SEASONS, and for DAYS, and YEARS: 15And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. 17And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, 18And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. 19And the evening and the morning were the FOURTH DAY. The King James Version, (Cambridge: Cambridge) 1769. God did not divide time into a twenty-four hour day until the fourth day, so the first 3 days could have been much longer then 24 hours. Lets go back to Adam , God said in the DAY that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Is God lying? for Adam lived 930 years. Now if you take the thousand year ,one day principle Adam died before the day was finnished. And if you take the stand that this is a spiritual death are you not then making this allegorical? Now I ask this question because I beleave the whole bible to be both a narritive and allegorical. Did God rest on the seventh day? If so why does Jesus state in Jn.5:17 But Jesus answered them, My Father WORKETH hitherto, and I work. The King James Version, (Cambridge: Cambridge) 1769. Could it not be , because we are now living in the sixth day? and the seventh day is in the near future.Just a thought. In Christ Scott. |
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2 | time | Acts 1:3 | Hank | 42775 | ||
Sctt, you say "I beleave the whole bible to be both a narritive and allegorical." I'm unclear on exactly what you mean by your statement, and thus faced with this ambiguity, I'm unsure of how to respond. But I assume -- a thing I generally try to avoid doing -- that you mean that the Bible contains both passages that are to be understood as plain narrative of fact and passages that are to be understood as allegory. If we proceed on the assumption that that is what you mean, let's examine the meaning of the word 'allegory.' From the Merriam-Webster Collegiate Dictionary I quote: "Allegory - 1: the expression by means of symbolic fictional figures and actions of truths or generalizations about human existence; also: an instance (as in a story or painting) of such expression. 2: a symbolic representation: emblem." ..... Now I ask you, as concerning the book of Genesis, where does the narrative of fact end and where does the allegory begin, and with what measure do you discern the difference? Does one not have the same license to say that the story of Noah's ark, or of Abraham, or of Joseph and his brothers may be allegory as to say that the story of creation may be allegory? Could we venture over into the New Testament and call the virgin birth allegory, or the redemptive work of Jesus on the cross allegory? Where does one draw the line? What system of exegesis permits interpretation of biblical text to comply with one's extrabiblical theories? --Hank | ||||||
3 | time | Acts 1:3 | Sctt | 42879 | ||
Hi Hank poor choice of a word on my behalf. I should have used both a narritive and a spiritual meaning. I do beleive that the whole bible has meny spiritual meanings hideen in it. I beleive that from the opening of the bible in Gen. to the close in Rev. that the bible teaches us about God the Father,Jesus Christ the son and the Holy Spirit. Now if there is no spiritual meanings in the book of Gen. how do you explain what is written in 1pet.3:20-21 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. 21The LIKE FIGURE whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: The King James Version, (Cambridge: Cambridge) 1769. Is this not both a historical narritive as well as having a spiritual meaning? There is also the story of Abraham and Issac, a narritive of what happend ,but also with a spiritual meaning Heb.11:17-19 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son, 18Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called: 19Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure. The King James Version, (Cambridge: Cambridge) 1769. There are many more ,Joseph , Melchisedec, Isaac, Jacob(Israel) etc. So what i'm saying is that just because it is a narritive of what actualy took place does not mean that there is no spiritual meaning behind the narritve.In Christ Scott. |
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4 | time | Acts 1:3 | Hank | 42908 | ||
Scott, thanks for your response and further explanation of your intended meaning in a previous post. I think your latter explanatory post, while clearer certainly than the former one, still falls a trifle short of what I'm inferring that you are attempting to say. Please forgive my playing the pedant, Scott -- the malady is common among those who are English majors -- but I think it would be of help to consider with you your usage of the phrase "a narrative and a spiritual meaning" as it applies to the Bible. It is correct to say that a narrative HAS a spiritual meaning (if this is true of the text in question), but incorrect to say that a text has a narrative meaning. The text IS the narrative. Narrative merely means the telling of something, whether it is a fictional story or a factual account. And you are quite right, I believe, to say in essence that all the Bible, from Genesis to the Revelation, is full of spiritual meaning, no matter what kinds of literature are considered -- from the flowing prose of the creation account in Genesis, to the stirring poetry of the wisdom books, to the arresting stories in Jesus' parables, to the colorful imagery of Revelation: all are rich in spiritual meanings. I note that you quote from a Cambridge King James Bible. I too own a Cambridge, in calfskin leather, which I prize. The Cambridge is a masterpiece of printing and binding. The King James is the only translation that has been called a masterpiece. The Bible in the original tongues, I am told, is a masterpiece. And it was written by the Master! So, my friend, when you hold in your hand a Cambridge Bible, you are in possession of an unbeatable combination of superlatives by all measures! May God bless. --Hank | ||||||