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1 | A FALSE TEACHING? Yes / No | Matt 8:5 | DarcyA | 94206 | ||
Worm there is not sin for mankind, It is simple they were mocking Jesus on the cross which the context of psa 22:5-6 would probably mean that He is not a man meaning they were not treating Him like a man but like a warm. For you to say Worm equals sin of mankind it would make more since for him to say I am a man not I am not a man but a worm. The Doctrine that you are trying to defend is this over all Satan had control of God in Hell Satan got his wish and was above God. That is the main conclusion of the Hell Doctrine. He went to hell as it states but in 1 peter 3 he says what he was doing there. He was preaching! Nothing about suffering in hell He suffered the full payment right before He said "It is finished" Thats as far as it goes. Also remember Jesus said I give my Spirit into the father's hand. He did not say Satan's hand as the WoF believe. If the hell doctrine is truth that poor thief that Jesus said I will see you TODAY in paradise. I don't think that thief liked Paradise to much. Also Jesus was Holy since the beginning, He was holy On the cross, He is still Holy. Jesus said "it is finished" while on the cross. Nothing else is needed. His ressurection is our justifaction. It shows when Jesus said it was finished it obsolutely was finished. |
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2 | A FALSE TEACHING? Yes / No | Matt 8:5 | gracefull | 94272 | ||
Worm Strong's 8438 crimson, scarlet, worm Also used in Isaiah 1:83 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as SCARLET, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. "Worm there is not sin for mankind, It is simple they were mocking Jesus on the cross which the context of psa 22:5-6 would probably mean that He is not a man meaning they were not treating Him like a man but like a warm. For you to say Worm equals sin of mankind it would make more since for him to say I am a man not I am not a man but a worm." 6. But I am a worm and not a man, A reproach of men and despised by the people. 7. All who see me sneer at me; They separate with the lip, they wag the head, saying, "Thats as far as it goes. Also remember Jesus said I give my Spirit into the father's hand." So Act's chapter 2 is not true either? Acts 2:24-28 23 this Man, delivered over by the (26) predetermined plan and foreknowledge of God, (27) you nailed to a cross by the hands of godless men and put Him to death. 24 "But (28) God raised Him up again, putting an end to the agony of death, since it (29) was impossible for Him to be held in its power. 25 "For David says of Him, 'I SAW THE LORD ALWAYS IN MY PRESENCE; FOR HE IS AT MY RIGHT HAND, SO THAT I WILL NOT BE SHAKEN. 26 'THEREFORE MY HEART WAS GLAD AND MY TONGUE EXULTED; MOREOVER MY FLESH ALSO WILL LIVE IN HOPE; 27 BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT ABANDON MY SOUL TO HADES, NOR ALLOW YOUR HOLY ONE TO UNDERGO DECAY. Peter goes on to say that David was not raised so theses verses are prophetic concerning Jesus..not left in Hades... While so many here on the forum defend doctrine... I present scripture, the only real test of TRUTH. God bless |
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3 | A FALSE TEACHING? Yes / No | Matt 8:5 | EdB | 94289 | ||
Graceful Read psalm 22 that your so tied up with. It is the psalmist describing himself not anything placed on him or in him. To try to say that the worm he was calling himself is the worm of sin is taking scripture and forcing meanings that just aren't there. EdB |
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4 | A FALSE TEACHING? Yes / No | Matt 8:5 | Emmaus | 94303 | ||
Ed, I have not been following this thead closely, so I hope I am not off track here. But, do you think that in Psalm 22, which is obvioulsy prophetic, the reference to being a worm could refer to how the one suffering and being put to shame is viewed by those tormenting him, as if he is saying, "I am a worm in the eyes of those who see me"? Just a thought. This verse from Hebrews came to my mind when I saw your post. Heb 12:2 "fixing our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God." Emmaus |
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5 | A FALSE TEACHING? Yes / No | Matt 8:5 | EdB | 94315 | ||
Emmaus I agree, the term language here could be viewed that way. In fact I will go as far as saying it probably was the writer intention rather than self abasement as I first suggested. I should have read MacArthur's commentary before I said what I did as MacArthur seems to agree with your take. Thanks However I'm sure you will agree that does not open the door to describe Jesus as a worm or having a weak emancipated wormy spirit. Nor is there any way to say the worm here is the sin of the world as Graceful suggestted. Thanks for pointing that out. EdB |
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6 | A FALSE TEACHING? Yes / No | Matt 8:5 | Emmaus | 94318 | ||
EdB, I agree. Emmaus |
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