Subject: Judas went to hell? |
Bible Note: Hi, Radioman; I hate to get this all stirred up yet again by replying at this late date, but I said I would.... In John 17:12, Jesus is praying in his disciples' (and our) hearing. I think it is possible that Jesus is referring to the Judas that the disciples have seen and will see - his actions and even his motives. I don't know that he is adressing Judas' heart and eventual fate. Judas was "lost" in the sense that, in contrast to the others, he abandoned (and, yes, betrayed) Jesus. But as I've said before, Jesus came to seek and save the "lost". We can certainly agree that Judas was not the subject of his prayer. I just cannot find in all the passages that have been provided proof that Judas went to hell. I appreciate the effort and thought that have gone into showing me the error of my ways. I know I look pig-headed, but if I can't see it, I can't see it. I agree there is a strong likelihood that Judas went to hell; certainly that is what he deserved. But then, so do I. Someone once said that when we get to Heaven, we'll all be shocked to see who's there and who isn't. I won't be surprised if Judas isn't. But if he is ... well, I just hope there's a big first-aid tent. ;-) Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |