Subject: Judas went to hell? |
Bible Note: Radioman, I too, appreciate the scriptures that Kalos and Nolan have given on this thread, but honestly if YOU personally wanted something shown to you by scripture, you would want the scripture to be specific, or at least say the word Hell, or Gehenna, Hades, the lower bowels of the earth, something, right? And because we don't see things that way you see it doesn't mean we don't deserve for someone who claims that Judas went to hell that they can back it up. Not just by saying it but also are giving scriptures that I feel have not proven this belief. I disagree that the scriptures given by Kalos and Nolan, they haven't plainly and clearly indicated this to me. I can't answer for anyone else. You have not been on this thread until now, and you show lack of patience, and I don't understand why. If you can clear this matter up by giving a scripture that plainly teaches this belief then please share it and we can all move on. Your choices in what you choose to believe is up to you and it's you're perrogative to continue in that belief, but for me I strive for more in depth understanding of God's Precious Word. Thanks for your comments. Also there are different variations for this belief. There is Gehenna: The Valley of Hinnom or the valley of the son's of Hinnom, where were the fires through which children were passed in worship of Moloch. In Jesus's day the idolatry had ceased but the fires were still continually burning there for the destruction of the refuse of Jerusalem, in other words a garage dump. Also there is Hades: Used by the Greeks meaning unseen world, but is rendered in more of a human origin,but the Holy Spirit had used it as one of the "words pertaining to earth", and doing so has "purified "it, "as silver tried in a furnace in Ps 12:6. The greek is Hades, and in Hebrew it's sheol, but Sheol's meaning is in more of a divine origin, never rendering outside the Word of God. The Holy Spirit has used (hades) in Acts2:27,31. the Holy Spirit's equivalent for Hades is Sheol in Ps. 16:10. The word is used eleven more time in the NT as Sheol as in a Divine sense as opposed to Hades, human in it's origin, In Matt.11:23, Matt.16:18, Luke 10:15, 16:23, 1Cor.15:55, Rev.1:18, 6:8, 20:13-14,are all rendered "hell" except for 1Cor.15:55 where it means "grave", and there are more in the OT for grave. Also there is Tartaroo, Occuring only here in 2Peter2:2-4 meaning to "thrust down to tartarus", being a greek word. Homer described it as a subterranean- Deut.32:22. The Homeric Tartarus is the prison of the Titans, or Giants (Heb. Rephaim). So you can see that there are slight differences in the meanings. So if you told me to go to Hell, then I would expect a clarification, (Just a little Humor) So please be specific. Thanks for you interest. Serenetime |