Subject: Judas went to hell? |
Bible Note: Hi Morant61, Thank you for your encouragement and for your introduction of John 17:12 into the discussion. First let me speak to points of your post. 1) I think that saying that Judas was filled by Satan is pretty strong. John 13:2 says, "And during supper, the evil having already put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon, to betray *Him,..." and John 13:18b, "but it is that the Scripture may be fulfilled, 'He who eats *My bread has lifted up his heel...' and John 13:27, "And after the morsel, Satan then entered into him. *Jesus therefore said to him, 'What you do, do quickly.'" The devil by putting the idea into the mind of Judas was unknowingly involved in the fulfillment of Scripture, that is, Psalm 41:9. And Jesus in John 13:27 gives the bread to Judas and tells them both, "What you do, do quickly." The disciples didn't know what purpose Jesus said this, but we do; it was TO FULFILL SCRIPTURE. And to glorify the Son of Man. Judas was called a devil by Jesus. And Peter was called Satan by Jesus. I would be slow to prejudge anyone to hell. 2) Judas did indeed deliver or expose to the enemy traitorously. Guilty as charged and as predicted by Jesus. But he was of the lost sheep of the house of Israel whom He came to save, and Jesus loved him to the end. Indeed, at the end Jesus called him friend. (Even though he betrayed Him to the enemy.) See Matthew 26:50, "'Friend, do what you have come for.' Then they came and laid hands on *Jesus and seized Him." 3) Judas killed himself. Jesus didn't want him to be taken out of the world. He would have wanted to send him out into the world with the other chosen disciples. Judas perished, was destroyed, was lost as a witness, because of his own self destruction. But in regard to the fulfillment of Scripture, John 17:12 and Psalm 4l, I don't think that the devil will be shouting in triumph over him. But again, our main concern is that we maintain our own integrity, keep following Him, and pray that we are kept from the evil one. 4) I think that giving the money back shows that he was sorry for betraying innocent blood. I hope that Judas will be able to say with David Psalm 3:1-3. "O Lord, how my adversaries have increased! Many are rising up against me. Many are saying of my soul, 'There is no deliverance for him in God.' But Thou, O Lord, art a shield about me, my glory, and the One who lifts my head." Judas said in the garden "He is the One". That is my belief and hope at least. As far as John 17:12 is concerned. Would you speak about the word "lost" or "perished" or "destroyed" in regard to the Greek and it being in Aorist Tense and Middle Voice for me please. I think that I have understood it, but tell me where I might be wrong. Later, Ray |