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NASB | Galatians 2:17 "But if, while seeking to be justified in Christ, we ourselves have also been found sinners, is Christ then a minister of sin? May it never be! |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Galatians 2:17 "But if, while we seek to be justified in Christ [by faith], we ourselves are found to be sinners, does that make Christ an advocate or promoter of our sin? Certainly not! |
Subject: But isn't that a contradiction |
Bible Note: Good day Ray, Your thoughts expressed here have crossed my mind on several occassions as well. We are sinners from conception, and we are treading in some very deep water. I suspect that if God were to directly interject His thinking into our discussion here, that all of us might be rebuked as Job was (Job 38:1-41:34) and that all of us would be forced to conclude as Job did (42:2-3): I know that You can do all things, And that no purpose of Yours can be thwarted. 'Who is this that hides counsel without knowledge?' "Therefore I have declared that which I did not understand, Things too wonderful for me, which I did not know." And yet, I think that, as long as we are honestly seeking to understand each other and the Scriptures (and ultimately God Himself!) better, then there is value in this discussion and that God is both pleased and honored by it. I do not think for even a second that this discussion will end the Calvanist-Arminian debate which has gone on for centuries. But that is not my purpose in asking these questions. I am just trying to understand one point of view better than I do now. You concluded by quoting Galatians 2:20: "I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me." You are quite correct to be more concerned about this. I can only reply with a hearty "Amen." We must never lose sight of this. And you have my permission (not that you need it!) to remind me of this any time that you think I may be losing that focus. Thank you for a timely reminder. Bob |