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NASB | Romans 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 10:9 because if you acknowledge and confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord [recognizing His power, authority, and majesty as God], and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. |
Bible Question (short): Who, besides the elect of God,are saved? |
Question (full): Dear Ed, Keep in mind that you inserted yourself in the topic for the pupose of correcting what you see as incorrect (to say the least) interpretation of Scripture: "The position you hold has summarily been rejected by over two thirds of Christianity and is on the decline". Happily for the church at large, sound theology does not rest on the numbers of people that think it to be true. I do not care a whit, if 99.9 per cent think it wrong. What counts is whether or not it is supported by Scripture. As an aside: take a good, long look at the state of the church in the 21st century, and then tell me about the great progress that the abandonment of the theology of the Reformers has wrought! You wrote:"I do not see a condition in John 3:16 that a person has to understand the gospel to be saved, you apparently do". In the first place: How can a person believe something he does'nt even understand? And in the second place: (1 Cor 2:14) But a natural man DOES NOT ACCEPT the things of the Spirit of God, for THEY ARE FOOLISHNESS TO HIM;" "Your saying when a person is born his ultimate fate has been decided,"....It does'nt matter what I said. what matters is what saith the Lord. "no matter what he does or does not do. If he is elected he will understand the gospel, he will accept it and he will have eternal life. If on the other hand he is not elected he can’t understand the gospel, he can’t accept it and he is condemned to damnation. Not because of what he did or did not do, other than being born of which he had no choice, but rather because he was not elected." "... .I never said that Ed. What I say is: that fallen man does not and will not ever desire Christ at the expense of his own autonomy. As we have seen it is all foolishness to him and he cannot understand why any sane person would believe in such a thing. On the other hand, if a person does desire Christ,repents of his sin and places his faith in Christ that is a sure sign that he is one of God's elect. The Lord said: "All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out" (John 6:37). "To me that renders John 3:16 inaccurate, for John 3:16 to be accurate in the light of this it would have to read. For God so loved the elect that He gave His only begotten Son that who ever was elected and therefore believed in Him would not perish and have eternal life." God calls for all men everywhere to repent and to place their faith in Christ alone as their hope for eternal life. No one will be able to charge God with not giving them an opportunity, for his law is written on their hearts. The problem is that unless God changes those wicked hearts, they will continue to hate Him and His Son. Question Ed. Who besides the elect of God are saved? John |