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NASB | Luke 17:3 "Be on your guard! If your brother sins, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Luke 17:3 "Pay attention and always be on guard [looking out for one another]! If your brother sins and disregards God's precepts, solemnly warn him; and if he repents and changes, forgive him. |
Bible Question:
Good answer Angel, brief and to the point. I feel somewhat guilty... me being an athiest and basically using you guys as researchers. I understand my form of justice, and please don't be offended, but the justice in the bible, so far, does not make sense. You have explained it's view well. It appears that I must disagree with the bible. Let me explain my justice, just so you will know where I am coming from. I believe that revenge is administrating justice for personal enjoyment. Only an evil person would enjoy hurting another, physically or psycologically. On the other hand, a person has to use retaliation to a guide a person to justice. What is the difference? When you spank a child and insist on remorse, when the child expresses remorse, they must be lovingly forgiven. You guide the child in 2 ways as a result. you punish for bad behavior and you reward them when they see it correctly. Society must operate in the same way. If on the other hand, your 2 year old comes over and kicks you in the knee and says "i'm sorry". You say, "you are forgiven". Then he kicks you in the knee again and says hes sorry. lol. Children are born uncivilized. If dicipline is not used, you will be rewarding bad behavior and you will get more of it. People learn limits as they age, but not the same limits. Your next door neighbor may think its just fine to park his non working car in his front yard on jacks. Would it be inapropriate to shun a fellow employee for touching people inapropriatly? 7 times in one day? As long as he expresses remorse each time? Mormons believe that they can not even hit someone if they are rapeing their wife. It is a good thing that there are those who are not mormons, to make it a safe world for them. They live in tight groups, they have to, they are not living in a way that works in many situations. |
Bible Answer: Greetings Pete2! Unless one is a Christian, Biblical forgiveness is impossible to understand. This is what makes the concept so difficult. But, I think that you may be confusing issues. There is a difference between personal forgiveness and administration of judicial punishment. I have to forgive a person who wrongs me, but that does not mean that said person will not still be liable to civil punishment. Someone who steals from me will be forgiven, but probably still go to jail! :-) The issue of forgiveness in Scripture is always personal, not governmental. Further, the concept of forgiveness does not rule out protecting an innocent. I may 'have to' turn the other check, but I don't have to stand aside and watch someone else be abused! :-) If you read the Sermon on the Mount concerning forgiveness, you will see what I mean. The forgiveness is always personal. By the way, what are you researching? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |