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1 | Explanations of difficult verses | NT general Archive 1 | GeneralWAS | 542 | ||
Difficult Verses on Baptism Mark 16:16 Some say that baptism is a requirement for salvation. This doctrine flies in the face of salvation by grace through faith alone. What then does it mean? The two possible answers are: It is not speaking of water baptism at all, but of the baptism of the Holy Spirit. This occurs at the time of our conversion, the time of our belief, and hence could be linked directly with belief in the verse. The other possibility is that since baptism is so closely linked to the our belief in Christ that it is listed here as part of that process. This verse does not say that we must be baptized to be saved, but that when we are saved, we should be baptized. If it were saying that both belief AND baptism are requirements for salvation, it would have to list "not believe OR not been baptized" as the reason for condemnation. In fact, the grammatical construct of this sentence in Greek does not require that both parts on the left be true for the result on the right to be true. While this is not definitive proof that only belief is required to be saved, it leaves open that possibility. We can prove the interpretation with the rest of Scripture. Luke 7:29-30 These two verses seem to indicate that someone's baptism has some effect on their ability to discern certain things. It is more likely that the condition of their heart and the presence of the Holy Spirit which led them to be baptized or not be baptized is the driving force in their discernment. Acts 2:38 Some say that since receiving of the Holy Spirit occurs when we are save, then since baptism is required to receive the Holy Spirit, it is required to be saved. This verse falls into the same Greek construct of not requiring both parts on the left to be true for the right of the equation to be true, again leaving open the possibility of repentance being the only requirement. Repentance (turning away from our sin), in the name of Jesus can only happen to those who receive Him as their Savior. It is when we receive Jesus, that our sins are forgiven. This verse shows once again how closely the time of a new Christian's baptism should be to the time they are saved. Acts 8:14-17 Here we have an occurrence where people have been saved (Samaria had received the word of God), and yet had not received the Holy Spirit. Why? The Holy Spirit typically comes to live inside of someone at the moment they are saved. But in this case, in order that God's acceptance of the Samaritans would be fully evident, the gift of the Spirit was delayed. God needed to show that His grace was available to ALL MEN. He needed to show it in a mighty way to the Jews. What better way than to have them actually see the Holy Spirit being received by the Samaritans, people whom the Jews loathed. 1 Corinthians 15:29 Some attempt to be baptized for someone who has already died, so that they may have eternal life and be saved. Such doctrine is inconsistent with the rest of Scripture. Baptism, which comes after we receive Jesus as our Savior and Lord, looks forward to our eternity in heaven. If none of this is true (heaven, eternal life, etc.), then our belief and baptism would be foolish. Praise be to God, that it ALL IS TRUE! Some early Christians may have dedicated their baptisms to those who had led them to Jesus who may have died or been killed. 1 Peter 3:21 Some find support for the idea that baptism is a requirement for salvation, in fact is the major requirement. This is simply not true. Peter specifically indicates that it is not water baptism he is speaking of (-- not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience--), but Spirit baptism. Water baptism does not save us, but symbolizes that we are saved. The waters of the flood brought death to those who did not believe, but life to Noah and his family. Yet in it all, it was God who provided the way of escape in the Ark, In the same way, God provides a way of escape for us in the cross of Jesus. The waters of baptism are for us a symbol of God's provision through the cross, just as the waters of the flood symbolize his provision for Noah's family through the ark. Acts 16:31-34 Some claim that we may believe in Christ for the purpose of saving our infant children and that the Bible supports infant baptism for salvation of those infants. This verse does not indicate that the belief of the jailhouse guard would save his household, but that salvation through belief was available to everyone in his household. Each of them must believe on their own as seen in verse 34 "with his whole household", as opposed to" for his whole household". Also, there is no indication here that this man had younger children who were too young to make their own profession of faith, hence there is no support for either believing or being baptized for the purpose of saving our infant children. |
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2 | Explanations of difficult verses | NT general Archive 1 | FTimA | 64985 | ||
You would do well to research water baptism and read all of the passages that deal with it. Where in the bible does it show a person who is saved NOT being baptized and where does it say in the bible that salvation is received prior to it? | ||||||
3 | Explanations of difficult verses | NT general Archive 1 | justme | 65016 | ||
FTimA: In water Baptism, should the person face down or up? sould the water be deep or have the person kneel and pour water on them? Where in the Bible does it tell us these things? When was the Saved theif n the cross next to Jesus baptized? Does the water need to be river water, lake water, or what kind of water does the Bible say? Who is allowed to baptize someone else? The ordained only? These questions I can find no answer for. Can you enlighten me? justme |
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4 | Explanations of difficult verses | NT general Archive 1 | FTimA | 65045 | ||
Baptizo 1)to dip repeatedly, to immerse, to submerge (of vessels sunk) 2)to cleanse by dipping or submerging, to wash, to make clean with water, to wash one’s self, bathe 3)to overwhelm Enhanced Strong’s Lexicon, (Oak Harbor, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.) 1995. It matters not which way a person faces as long as they are totally immersed. John 3:22 After these things Jesus and His disciples came into the land of Judea, and there He was spending time with them and baptizing. 23 John also was baptizing in Aenon near Salim, because there was much water there; and people were coming and were being baptized-- 24 for John had not yet been thrown into prison. As the passages reveal in John 3:23, the water should be sufficient enough to immerse. Pouring or sprinkling will not do. Romans 6:3,4 3 Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death?4 Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. When Christ died he was buried in a tomb. As many of us who have been baptized into Christ are baptized into his death. When a person dies are they not covered completely? In Jesus' case he was covered completely by rock. The Romans even sealed it! Today, are we not completely buried in dirt or a tomb of some sort? When a person is baptized, they are buried in water, as the bible commands and shows overwhelming evidence of. Baptism is a crucial part of salvation. Not after salvation but unto salvation. For until one is baptized they do not come into contact with Christ's death! They are not saved...according to the bible. The thief on the cross was blessed with forgiveness by Jesus before Jesus died. There was no need for him to be baptized. It matters not what kind of water is used as long as "there is much water there". Who is allowed to baptize? The bible is not explicit on this but it does show enough example of someone else baptizing the one being baptized. John the baptist, Jesus' disciples, and others. 1 Corinthians 1:12 gives us some idea, "Now I say this, that each of you says, “I am of Paul,” or “I am of Apollos,” or “I am of Cephas,” or “I am of Christ.” 13Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul? 14I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, 15lest anyone should say that I had baptized in my own name. 16Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas. Besides, I do not know whether I baptized any other. From this I would say Paul, Apollos, and Cephas(Peter) baptized. Christ didn't baptize because the bible tells us he didn't in John 4:2. Acts 8 tells us of Philip baptizing the Ethiopian eunuch. There are others but I would say, based on what we find in the bible, that anyone could baptize as long as they are in Christ. You say you can find no answers for these questions? I found answers to all of them in less than ten minutes using the search function of this web page and some bible software I have. |
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5 | Explanations of difficult verses | NT general Archive 1 | justme | 65076 | ||
FTimA: The early Church baptized face down. Some baptized three times! Once for the Father, then the Holy Spirit, and Jesus Christ. Why have we changed? In Some churches only ordained ministers can baptize, at least the SBC churches I pastored did. Is this scriptual? Again you connect baptism with salvation. I will respect you right to believe so. I only wish you would do the same for me and others. You are comitted to bring baptism up in every note you have written me. Please, I do not want to discuss Baptism as a part of salvation with you again as you are unable to dialogue, only argue the issue. I Hope you never visit a dying person in the hospital and they want to come to Christ and be saved. Would you say too bad you did not get baptized! You are doomed for hell? I would, and have, sprinkled a person, saying it was a symbol of baptism. My understanding of salvation is by GRACE and Faith are we saved not of anything I can do! I asked you all these list of questions to let you see the list of requirements can become so long that the person might never be Saved if all the things, some think, are required come about. Just to change the subject, what about foot washing? How do you believe about that? Did not Jesus tell us to follow His example? justme |
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6 | Explanations of difficult verses | NT general Archive 1 | FTimA | 65139 | ||
Why have we changed? Boy, that's a good question. Where in the New Testament does it specify who can baptize? John (the baptist) did it, he was not ordained (except by God). Jesus' disciples did it. Were they ordained? Apollos, Cephas, Paul, Timothy...who knows who else? When someone desires to become a Christian in the assembly I associate with, during a worship service, they generally let it be known by coming forward. The minister is usually the one who takes this responsibility, but there is a family of 13 where the father has baptized each one of the children. Again, I think the only stipulation would be that a person baptizing others would have to be a Christian, because only a Christian would (at least should) understand its purpose and meaning. There is no passage of scripture that I know of that says this. John the baptist certainly was not a Christian, nor were any of those who were baptized by him or prior to Christ's death, or were they? From what I have learned the term "christian" was first used as a slanderous term. Who knows? Baptism is connected to salvation. How do I know? The bible tells me so. Pull out your concordance, look up the word baptize, baptism, baptized, and baptizing. Read the scriptures associated with them, with intent. Sure, you will read of the baptism of the Holy Spirit and the baptism of John, but if you consider all of scripture dealing with this subject, and "receive the word with eagerness" and "search the scriptures" (Acts 17:11), you will see that they all had their purpose and that water baptism is a very important part of salvation. Or you won't. |
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7 | Explanations of difficult verses | NT general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 65181 | ||
FtimA, You raise interesting and important questions about who is qualified to baptize and the connection of baptism to salvation. You have described your assembly's administration of baptism. I have attended similar baptisms of friends at Baptist churches. Below I have cited (in part) the position of my church on these questions. You may find them of interest. "VI. THE NECESSITY OF BAPTISM 1257 The Lord himself affirms that Baptism is necessary for salvation.[Jn 3:5] He also commands his disciples to proclaim the Gospel to all nations and to baptize them.[Matt 28:19-20] Baptism is necessary for salvation for those to whom the Gospel has been proclaimed and who have had the possibility of asking for this sacrament.[Mark 16:16] The Church does not know of any means other than Baptism that assures entry into eternal beatitude; this is why she takes care not to neglect the mission she has received from the Lord to see that all who can be baptized are "reborn of water and the Spirit." God has bound salvation to the sacrament of Baptism, but he himself is not bound by his sacraments. 1258 The Church has always held the firm conviction that those who suffer death for the sake of the faith without having received Baptism are baptized by their death for and with Christ. This Baptism of blood, like the desire for Baptism, brings about the fruits of Baptism without being a sacrament. 1259 For catechumens who die before their Baptism, their explicit desire to receive it, together with repentance for their sins, and charity, assures them the salvation that they were not able to receive through the sacrament. 1260 "Since Christ died for all, and since all men are in fact called to one and the same destiny, which is divine, we must hold that the Holy Spirit offers to all the possibility of being made partakers, in a way known to God, of the Paschal mystery."[62] Every man who is ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and of his Church, but seeks the truth and does the will of God in accordance with his understanding of it, can be saved. It may be supposed that such persons would have desired Baptism explicitly if they had known its necessity. 1261 As regards children who have died without Baptism, the Church can only entrust them to the mercy of God, as she does in her funeral rites for them. Indeed, the great mercy of God who desires that all men should be saved, and Jesus' tenderness toward children which caused him to say: "Let the children come to me, do not hinder them,"[Mk 10:14;1Tim 2:4] allow us to hope that there is a way of salvation for children who have died without Baptism. All the more urgent is the Church's call not to prevent little children coming to Christ through the gift of holy Baptism." The Catechism Emmaus |
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8 | Explanations of difficult verses | NT general Archive 1 | FTimA | 65200 | ||
Catechism #1258 has no biblical support. James 2:19 You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder. Belief and faith, I feel are two different things. For example, when you fly on a plane, you believe that the plane is there, you can touch it. You must have faith that it will fly. That may be a lame analogy but I hope you see my point. When these catechisms say "the church says" or "the church has always held" it is as though "the church were a person (the pope maybe?). The church is the sum total of all believers that have obeyed the gospel of Jesus Christ and no other. There is no biblical support for #1259. What in the world is the Paschal mystery? There is no biblical support for #1260. I can cite scripture that says one must hear the word of God and after hearing, believe it. Repent of their sins, confess Jesus to the world that he is their lord and savior, and then be baptized for the remission of sin. There is no half way. It is all the way or none of the way, according to the bible. There is no biblical support for #1261. I guess this is why the catholic religion baptizes infants, for fear they are endowed with original sin. The bible teaches otherwise. Ezek 18:20 "The person who sins will die. The son will not bear the punishment for the father's iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment for the son's iniquity; the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself. This passage in Ezekiel supports individual responsibility of sin. Children cannot sin until they know the difference between right and wrong. I thank you for your patience Emmaus. It is getting late. We will talk again. |
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9 | Explanations of difficult verses | NT general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 65207 | ||
FTima, I was not expecting you to agree with my post. I was only showing you what I believe on the questions you had raised in your post. It is well known on this forum that I am Catholic, maybe the only one here at this point. And it is well known that Catholics rely on Scripture and Sacred Tradition and not Scripture alone. Fear not! I haven't made any converts here yet that I am aware of, nor have I drowned anyone by dragging them across the Tiber for an involuntary baptism by immersion into Rome. :-) The Pascal Mystery is the whole the mystery of salvation by the death and resurrection of Christ the Pascal (Passover) Lamb of God (1 Cor 5:7; John 1:29)who died for us. Emmaus |
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10 | Is Christ a mystery? | NT general Archive 1 | FTimA | 65227 | ||
Why is the death and resurrection of Christ considered a mystery? | ||||||
11 | Is Christ a mystery? | NT general Archive 1 | Mommapbs | 65234 | ||
Greetings FTimA! The mystery of Christ has been revealed - Jesus is God's Perfect provision for the salvation of the whole world. Can you explain HOW this is possible? It's a mystery to me! In your profile you wrote,"How could this have come about by mere chance?". The "mystery of Christ" relies upon the same answer. (GOD alone) We know through God's Word that He saves man based upon faith alone (Eph. 2:8-10 et al)But can we explain HOW God saves? HOW means, what is the process that takes place in us that we degenerates become righteous, acceptable to God? When we do not understand HOW something "works," we often call it a mystery. The same can be applied to HOW God declares us righteous by the shed blood of Christ . . . can you explain HOW Christ's ressurection insures the same for us as believers? It's a mystery to me, yet knowing the One who keeps secrets (Dt 29:29)enables my heart to have confidence that He is faithful to do as He promises. Blessings on your day. Mommapbs |
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