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1 | Judas went to hell? | NT general Archive 1 | stjones | 28044 | ||
Hi, Nolan; All excellent points. But I must continue in my ignorance - I simply do not know Judas' heart or God's final judgment on him. I appreciate the fact that you have relied on Scripture to support your conclusion. A lot of commentators have been cited in this thread, all claiming that Judas went to hell. I finally went to the commentaries and study Bible that I use to see what those writers thought. Not one of them addressed Judas' ultimate fate. I take this to mean that there are scholars who, like me, cannot find sufficient evidence in the Bible to declare with certainty what that fate was. I guess they are as ignorant as I am. ;-) Peach and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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2 | Judas went to hell? | NT general Archive 1 | Makarios | 28063 | ||
Greetings Steve, Regardless of how many "excellent points" I make, I see that it is all done in vain, since you have obviously closed yourself to the conclusions that Tim, kalos and I have repeatedly come to, all which nicely coincide with each other. I suppose that we will just have to continue to disagree, since I believe that the Bible explicitly tells us the eternal destination of Judas, and you fail to recognize or acknowledge that, no matter how much work is put into it. - Nolan |
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3 | Judas went to hell? | NT general Archive 1 | stjones | 28094 | ||
Hi, Nolan; I'm sorry to have offended or upset you. I hope you can understand that I am unable to succumb to mere numbers and opinions and abandon what I understand the Bible to say or not say. As for your effort being "in vain", it was if your intent was to bludgeon me into submission - I do not share your certainty about Judas' fate. We obviously disagree; I had thought it could be respectfully. Despite all the impassioned assertions by you and others, the Bible does not explicitly say that Judas went to hell. It does not explicitly say that his repentence was of an inferior variety. It does not explicitly say that "his place" refers to hell. It does not explicitly say that "better to have never been born" is equivalent to damnation. These are all valid interpretations of what the Bible says, but they are not explicit statements. The interpretations offered by you and the others are plausible. I would have thought that by my uncertainty of Judas' current whereabouts I was acknowledging that. He may indeed be in hell. But other interpretations consistent with the rest of Scripture are possible too. Perhaps the certainty that Judas is in hell arises not from anything the Bible explcitly says but from a fervent desire to see him there. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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4 | Judas went to hell? | NT general Archive 1 | Hank | 28099 | ||
Hi, Steve. Happy New Year! Fact is, I don't KNOW where Judas is either and it doesn't bother me much. If he is in hell, I don't think it a worthy goal to wish to go there to find out! Isn't it remarkable how many of these questions we see bandied about on the forum just really don't amount to much to begin with? You know, I've attended Bible study classes for years and taught many of them and don't recall asking or being asked about where Judas went or who Cain's wife was or whether God is left or right handed. There are simply some questions not worth asking. And the answers, even if we knew them for certain, wouldn't be worth a half a cup of warmed-over coffee. This is no slam at you Steve -- not in the least -- but from the tenor of your posts I'd guess you might even be somewhat inclined to give a nod to my observation on this subject. --Hank | ||||||
5 | Judas went to hell? | NT general Archive 1 | stjones | 28184 | ||
Hi, Hank; Yes and no. The answer is not important. Seeking the answer is. Such questions challenge me do two things that I don't usually do - dig deep into a single verse or two and think out of the box (mine, not the Bible's) about God. Just another example of the journey being more important than the destination. Happy New Year to you too. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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