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1 | Judas went to hell? | NT general Archive 1 | Cephas | 3132 | ||
Where does it say that Judas went to hell? | ||||||
2 | Judas went to hell? | NT general Archive 1 | Makarios | 27863 | ||
Greetings Cephas! In addition to kalos' posts, here is more evidence that Judas went to hell.. "For the Son of Man is to go just as it is written of Him; but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been good for that man if he had not been born." (Mark 14:21) "The Son of Man is to go, just as it is written of Him; but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been good for that man if he had not been born." (Matthew 26:24) "Even my close friend in whom I trusted, who ate my bread, has lifted up his heel against me." (Psalm 41:9) "I do not speak of all of you. I know the ones I have chosen; but it is that the Scripture may be fulfilled, "HE WHO EATS MY BREAD HAS LIFTED UP HIS HEEL AGAINST ME.'" (John 13:18) "Jesus answered them, "Did I Myself not choose you, the twelve, and yet one of you is a devil?" (John 6:70) "Jesus said to him, "He who has bathed needs only to wash his feet, but is completely clean; and you are clean, but not all of you." (John 13:10) "While I was with them, I was keeping them in Your name which You have given Me; and I guarded them and not one of them perished but the son of perdition, so that the Scripture would be fulfilled." (John 17:12) "For indeed, the Son of Man is going as it has been determined; but woe to that man by whom He is betrayed!" (Luke 22:22) This is "good Scriptural evidence" that Judas was not saved. Blessings to you, Nolan |
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3 | Judas went to hell? | NT general Archive 1 | serenetime | 27876 | ||
Kalos, I am totally perplexed how Judas could be the son of Perdition for the simpliest reason. Judas's death happened around where BC went to AD, right when it changed. First in 2 Thess 2:1-3 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him. Verse 2, that ye be not soon shaken in mind or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter, as from us, as the day of Christ is at hand. verse 3, Let no man decieve you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition. 2 Thess. was written right after 53ad. so were talking about 53 yrs. had gone by since Judas had died. 2 thess. as a whole is about the future beyond Paul. Because if it was Judas, then Why was Paul speaking of the future of the coming of Christ being revealed. The Gospel's revealed the story already of Judas, so he would have been revealed as the "son of perdition". But as quoted in 2 Thess.2:2 Particularly that you not be shaken by a letter from us, because Paul did not reveal who he was, and he did not know who he was. Because if Judas was the son of perdition, then when did Judas sit in the temple exalting himself showing himself to be God. From that day passover then, to at least ot Paul's time the gospel was growing. It doesn't fit, to me at least it doesn't. In the LOVE of the Father, Serenetime |
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4 | Judas went to hell? | NT general Archive 1 | Makarios | 27967 | ||
Greetings Serenetime! You are responding to a post that I have written. John 17:12 is clearly describing Judas and 2 Thess. 2:3 is describing the antichrist. By using "son of perdition" here in John 17:12 as a reference to Judas, Jesus is making it all the more clear that Judas is destined for destruction, since this verse literally means "the son of destruction" and the word "them" in John 17:12 is clearly referring to the disciples, and Judas was clearly 'one of them'. In 2 Thess. 2:3, the antichrist will be the epitome of perdition and destruction, the same word being applied to him also, since he will exalt himself and even declare himself as God. In either case, by betraying God in the flesh with a kiss, or by exalting yourself as God, destruction will follow since God alone is the Supreme Ruler of this world. Nothing on this earth could ever help Judas deal with or remove his great remorse for what he had done, and he committed suicide because he could not bear the guilt of what he had done. Blessings to you, Nolan |
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5 | Judas went to hell? | NT general Archive 1 | serenetime | 28307 | ||
Nolan, What about Matt.27:3-5 Then Judas which had betrayed Him,when he saw that He was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, 4) Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood." And they said, " What is that to us? see thou to that 5) And he cast down the pieces of silver in the Temple, and departed. It seems to me that Judas repented of what he did. If Paul being a murderer of Christians before he was knocked off the ass by Jesus was saved, then Judas was also forgiven and saved. If not, then I guess we haven't been saved either. It says he repented, he realized what he did. He had a change of heart. Isn't that enough?? Serenetime | ||||||
6 | Judas went to hell? | NT general Archive 1 | stjones | 28327 | ||
Hi, serenetime; Scroll up about 20 messages or so in this thread to the one entitled "Greetings martyr! The Bible says that... " posted by my good friend Nolan Keck Sun 12/23/01, 12:06am. If you read down through that thread, you will find a most ... um ... lively exchange about this passage and what it means or doesn't mean. Enjoy. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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7 | Judas went to hell? | NT general Archive 1 | Makarios | 28430 | ||
Thank you, my friend! :-) - Nolan |
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