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1 | "Once Saved Always Saved" | NT general Archive 1 | LisaMarie | 25531 | ||
Norrie, I don't usually get parental on discussion boards. In your case I'm going to make an exception. Where others are asking questions and giving input, you are primarily stating fallacies. If you want to continue your smear campaign which includes bad mouthing your own family, I'm going to remind you that Jesus teaches it's not what you put into your mouth that leads you to sin but what comes out of it. Then I might suggest you read NIV Romans Ch. 14. Here's a few verses to get you started: 11 It is written: "As surely as I live," says the Lord, "every knee will bow before me; every tongue will confess to God." 12 So then, each of us will give an account of himself to God. 13 Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way. Jesus died for ALL people. If you insist on criticizing, please realize that you also criticize the one who gave his life for them. May God grant you peace, Lisa |
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2 | "Once Saved Always Saved" | NT general Archive 1 | There | 25722 | ||
Hi Lisa, The numbered texts below are taken from the revised Catholic Catechism (1997). 1035. "The teaching of the Church affirms the existence of hell and its eternity. Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of MORTAL SIN descend into hell, where they suffer the punishments of hell, 'eternal fire.'[Cf. DS 76; 409; 411; 801; 858; 1002; 1351; 1575; Paul VI, CPG # 12.] The chief punishment of hell is eternal separation from God, in whom alone man can possess the life and happiness for which he was created and for which he longs." 1496. "The spiritual effects of the sacrament of Penance are: - reconciliation with God by which the penitent recovers grace; - reconciliation with the Church; - remission of the eternal punishment incurred by MORTAL sins; - remission, at least in part, of temporal punishments resulting from sin; - peace and serenity of conscience, and spiritual consolation; - an increase of spiritual strength for the Christian battle. " 1457. "According to the Church's command, 'after having attained the age of discretion, each of the faithful is bound by an obligation faithfully to confess serious sins at least once a year.'[Cf. CIC, Can. 989; Council of Trent (1551): DS 1683; DS 1708.] Anyone who is aware of having committed a MORTAL SIN must not receive Holy Communion, even if he experiences deep contrition, without having first received sacramental absolution, unless he has a grave reason for receiving Communion and there is no possibility of going to confession.[Cf. Council of Trent (1551): DS 1647; 1661; CIC, can. 916; CCEO, can.] Children must go to the sacrament of Penance before receiving Holy Communion for the first time.[Cf. CIC, can. 914.]" 1854. "Sins are rightly evaluated according to their gravity. The distinction between MORTAL and VENIAL SIN, already evident in Scripture,[Cf. 1Jn 16-17 .] became part of the tradition of the Church. It is corroborated by human experience." [[Do you know what biblical reference they refer to above 1John 16-17? If you do, I'd appreciate being told.]] [[Mine - a repeat. James 2:10 "For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all."]] 1857. "For a SIN to be MORTAL, three conditions must together be met: 'MORTAL SIN is SIN whose object is grave matter and which is also committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent.'[RP 17 # 12.]" 1858. "Grave matter is specified by the Ten Commandments, corresponding to the answer of Jesus to the rich young man: 'Do not kill, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and your mother.'[Mk 10:19 .] The gravity of sins is more or less great: murder is graver than theft. One must also take into account who is wronged: violence against parents is in itself graver than violence against a stranger." 1863. "Venial SIN weakens charity; it manifests a disordered affection for created goods; it impedes the soul's progress in the exercise of the virtues and the practice of the moral good; it merits temporal punishment. Deliberate and unrepented venial SIN disposes us little by little to commit MORTAL SIN. However venial SIN does not set us in direct opposition to the will and friendship of God; it does not break the covenant with God. With God's grace it is humanly reparable. 'Venial SIN does not deprive the sinner of sanctifying grace, friendship with God, charity, and consequently eternal happiness.'[John Paul II, RP 17 # 9.] While he is in the flesh, man cannot help but have at least some light sins. But do not despise these sins which we call 'light': if you take them for light when you weigh them, tremble when you count them. A number of light objects makes a great mass; a number of drops fills a river; a number of grains makes a heap. What then is our hope? Above all, confession.[St. Augustine, In ep. Jo. 1, 6: PL 35, 1982.]" 2484. "The gravity of a lie is measured against the nature of the truth it deforms, the circumstances, the intentions of the one who lies, and the harm suffered by its victims. If a lie in itself only constitutes a venial SIN, it becomes MORTAL when it does grave injury to the virtues of justice and charity. " [[See James 2:10]] One of the "mortal" sins is intentionally missing mass on Sunday Lisa. We were taught that as children and young adults too. Even as adults we needed to "confess" to the priest if we had missed mass or be forever doomed to hell. And you seem to be under the impression that we ex-Catholics each knew only one "priest" during our Catholic experience. I can't speak for others, but I was very close friends with several. I have learned under a total of probably at least 10 priests over the years, possibly more. And they all taught the same thing... even the younger ones. And the reason for that I assume is that they all learned from the same teachings. God bless. |
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3 | "Once Saved Always Saved" | NT general Archive 1 | Norrie | 25751 | ||
Hi There, Daddy's first cousin is a priest, he was in same city, was over for all major holidays plus inbetween too. Then our church has 2 regular priests plus Springhill College is in town so some of their Jesuits would come there too. Then there were bunches of nuns, they were the main religion teachers. Then in high school there were nuns and priests. It was the priest teaching religion that said bible was just stories to combat mythology. By this time our church happened to have this priest's brother there too. So I'd say I had more than 1 priest's influence. :) I did ask a bunch of Xcath today at Bible study if the Cath did teach the mortal sin/hell and veniel sin/purgatory and they all said yes, that's what they were taught too so... |
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4 | "Once Saved Always Saved" | NT general Archive 1 | There | 25759 | ||
I do understand.... :) God bless!! | ||||||