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1 | "Once Saved Always Saved" | NT general Archive 1 | Martha | 24655 | ||
Hi Brian, I have been reading everyone's note regarding Catholics. I was born catholic, in a family full of 100 hundred percent catholics. When it was time for me to give my first communion, my mom sent me to a Sunday school, so she believed, but I ended up with an old man who told me that the Catholic Church did not teach Jesus Christ's teachings and instead read the bible with me. Boy did he get me in trouble, I was 9 years old and very proud of God, after I finish reading the Bible, but it created a lot of controversy in my house and in the catholic church. The church refused to let me receive my first communion and my mom had a big celebration prepared for that weekend, so guess what she did? she went from church to church until one of the churches priests said: What do you say? She only knows our father and the Bible? well that's okay. Let her have her communion, so I did. But from then on, I never again wanted to go into one of the churches, so I grew up aimless around the world without a God, until God finnally decided to call me and teach me Christianity. And again, I had to go through the very same thing I went through when I was 9 years old. This time as an adult I received my parents and my sisters, uncles, aunts, rejections, you name it, I received it all. I almost went crazy trying to understand God, the Bible and the rest of the world around me. So many different ideas, so many different religions, so many different issues, it can drive you mad, but God can guide you and take you through each one of those steps, one by one. He already is, because you are reading the Bible and asking questions, listen to him and do not let the rest of the people overwhelm you. If it is too much for you, take a break and come back. May God bless you, Martha, |
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2 | "Once Saved Always Saved" | NT general Archive 1 | Brian.g | 24669 | ||
I believe that Martha, your story, reinforces that it is responsibility and duty of every parent to be actively involved in our childrens lives. For a 9 year old girl to be sent out a religious education class, and not even know that she didn't make it - for the months of time required to prepare for first communion - is terrible. It is obvious that your parents did not allow God into your home. And then, to put that same 9 year old into a situation in which she makes an adult decision to leave any church and wonder aimlessly until adult. Why Martha - it just proves that when parents abandon their responsibilities - anything can happen Thank you for sharing your story with us. Brian |
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3 | "Once Saved Always Saved" | NT general Archive 1 | Norrie | 24671 | ||
Brian, how can you read Martha's story and come up w/your conclusion? I say thank God for that old man who spoke the Truth to her! Better for her to have been floundering around trying to find the Truth than being indoctrinated into wrong teaching that will send you to hell! At least now she knows the Truth and doesn't have to purge years of brainwashing from her mind. My obvious conclusion also was that she did not go to Cath school, otherwise, she would not have went to SS and she would have made her first communion in 2nd grade. I think this was God guiding her life to keep her away from the wrong teachings. Seems we come up w/two different conclusions about her story. :) |
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4 | "Once Saved Always Saved" | NT general Archive 1 | LisaMarie | 24716 | ||
Norrie, I'm not trying to convince you "my way" is better. Nothing of the sort. Just trying to cast a little light here. It's true. Prior to the Vatican II council, Catholics were urged to memorize catechism. Not biblical text. The clergy was worried that people, left to their own devices, would misinterpret its content. So they urged us to listen to them. Vatican II council was where they admitted that was entirely wrong. Brian is right, Though it was over 30 years ago, Vatican II is still growing and learning. I say YAHOOOO! Hugs, Lisa |
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5 | "Once Saved Always Saved" | NT general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 24786 | ||
Lisa, Lisa, it sounds to me like you are still trying to exult the Catholic Church. Why don't you just let go and lift up Jesus. The Catholic religion hasn't and can't do a thing for you anymore than any organization can do anything for anyone. Paul had the same problem with the Jews of his time. Romans 10:1-5 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. 2For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. 3For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. 4For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. My wife had the problem of not wanting to let go of her Catholic faith but once she did God revealed truth to her and now she can't understand how she believed what was drummed in to her for all those years. Until a person puts all their trust in Jesus, and that has to be 100 percent, they won't receive the gift of God. Do you know what it means to repent and believe? If you use the word sorrow in the answer you are still thinking Catholicism. I am just trying to help and I have nothing to gain. CDBJ |
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6 | "Once Saved Always Saved" | NT general Archive 1 | Norrie | 24846 | ||
The testimony about your wife is how all Cath feel once they break away and learn the real Truth. It's amazing to me how hard it is for them to break. Talking to them is like talking to a wall, you just can't get thru! The Church is more important than Jesus, so are Mary, saints and pope too. Even when you leave, they beg you to come back, do everything they can to convince you, been there, had that happen. I have to give it to Cath in one way tho, at least they're loyal, may be misplaced loyalty but it's hard to change them. I had a BIL that was kicked out of church, him and my sister eloped so their marriage or children weren't recognized, they never had anything to do w/Church, drank and smoked heavily. Later when I'd be telling them about Jesus, he'd say we're Cath. Then I was witnessing to him heavy before he died, so were the Cath-guess which one he chose. :( I have a crackhead brother who refuses to go to church w/us but goes to Cath church occas, I think just to make Mama mad, he sponges off of her. We know only Jesus can change him but he refuses to listen, still clings to salvation thru Church instead of Jesus-what can you do except pray for him. |
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7 | "Once Saved Always Saved" | NT general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 24938 | ||
Hi Norrie, prayer and giving people the word is all that we can do. A person's will is what the problem is because God does not over power their will when it comes to salvation. We know this because of two verses. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. The lord isn't willing yet many are going to destruction. Mathew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: People are not willing to put ALL their faith in Jesus for eternal life; they like to hang on to their denominations and other little security blankets that they have. There are many that talk the talk and use most of the vernacular but they are missing the key ingredient. That key ingredient is faith. The Greek word for faith says so much more then the word faith in the English. It is more then just believe or faith, in the Greek. I think the story that best portrays it is the story of a famous tight wirewalker that walked over Niagara Falls. As the story goes he walked over the falls, and then came back and ask if everyone believed that he could go across with a load of rocks in a wheelbarrow with the tire removed? The all said that they believed in him that he could do it. He went over and back with no problems. He then asked, when he returned, do you believe that I could take a person across in the wheelbarrow? They all clapped and said that they believed in him that he could do it. He then said OK, would someone please get in the wheelbarrow; nobody moved! Getting in the wheelbarrow is what the Bible means by believe in Jesus Christ. All we can do is trust in the one that is doing all the work, Jesus; and sit real still and have faith in him. No denomination, no works, no this that or the other thing just complete trust in the one taking us across the span of this life into eternity. Catholics and a lot of protestant are not willing to commit their salvation to Christ in complete trust. They want to do something even if it is something that sounds biblical like being baptized, joining a church or going forward in a Billy Graham crusade. I ask a person one time how they knew that they were saved. They said that they knew they were saved because they went forward in a church service. As soon as someone tries to do something for salvation it is works and God won't give them the gift of eternal life. It's like getting a free ride on a jet plane and the person wants to help, so they decide to get out and push. There are a lot of make believe Christians out there. The Lord even gave a parable about them called the wheat and the tares. Matthew 13:24-30 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: 25But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. 26But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. 27So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? 28He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? 29But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. 30Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. Keep giving out the Word, CDBJ |
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