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1 | "Once Saved Always Saved" | NT general Archive 1 | Norrie | 24267 | ||
I thought you meant when you said Cath means universal that they were speaking for everybody-sorry! But that seg. I posted sure reads like Cath only, escept maybe Muslims. I remember arguing w/a Latter Day Saint when I was a kid, both of us claim our religions were only one going to heaven, all others going to hell. Remember, I was raised strict Cath. I haven't been a part of them for 30 yrs but I sure was indoctrinated for 20! Then all my older relatives inxcluding my dad died Cath, Mama just left them about 5 yrs ago which was a miracle in itself because I thought she'd never leave. You wouldn't believe some of the stories Mama tells about how they shafted her and she still came back for more-unbelieveable! I think I posted a few if you do a search. :) |
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2 | "Once Saved Always Saved" | NT general Archive 1 | Brian.g | 24282 | ||
Norrie I can tell you stories of a: Catholic Priest who molests children; Baptist Pastor who impregnated a 16 year old girl; Lutheran Minister who stole a car; an Apostle who betrayed Christ. Do you condemn all for the actions of one? With regard to the Catholic Churches position on Muslims. Just a few lines after your quote, is the following Catholic belief: 847: Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation. Anyone who has studied Islam, with an open heart, would recognize that this is a religion which seeks God with all their hearts. Do not confuse the criminals,who use the Islamic religion as a front for their crimes, as representative of Islam. They are nothing but criminals. A true Muslim seeks to find God, without the advantage of the Gospel. I believe a Muslim seeking God with all of his heart, is more pleasing to God - than a Christian who is complacent. Hebrews 11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that He exists and that He rewards those who earnestly seek Him Brian |
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3 | "Once Saved Always Saved" | NT general Archive 1 | Hank | 24286 | ||
Hello, Brian. Our Lord said, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me." (John 14:6)...... I'd be interested to learn how this statement by the Lord Jesus can be factored into the stand that your church takes on who will be saved -- those, for example, who "follow the dictates of their own conscience." Jesus is saying He is THE way, while your church seems to be saying there is more than one way. How can you explain this? --Hank | ||||||
4 | "Once Saved Always Saved" | NT general Archive 1 | Brian.g | 24289 | ||
Hank This is a 'belief' of the Catholic Church. This belief guides us in our dealings with and acceptance of other religions - including those who do not have the benefit of the Gospel. Without the benefit of the Gospel, non-Christians do not have an understanding as to who Jesus is and cannot be expected to be judged in the same manner as a Christian. Although it's OT and different, an example could be Abraham or Moses. They were not Christians, because they did not have the benefit of the testimony of the Gospel, but there is little doubt that they are in heaven - because they pleased God. Their love and commitment was complete. In a sense, a person who has not been exposed to the Gospel, is living in a modern day - Old Testament environment. We can't be like the elder brother to the prodigal son, and get upset as to who else is allowed home. We accept that God has the right to offer salvation to these other people. However, this in no way condones or supports Christians who turn to alternative non-Christian religions or cults, to redefine their relationship with God. These people are turning away from the Word of God - the testimony of the Gospel. Hank, I posted a two-part question on the Profession of Faith. I would sincerely appreciate your comments. Brian |
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5 | "Once Saved Always Saved" | NT general Archive 1 | Norrie | 24325 | ||
The OT saints were looking fwd to the One, True Jesus, they had faith He would come, how can you compare them to infidels who sincerely believe their false gods? | ||||||