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1 | Saved by belief or belief and baptism? | NT general Archive 1 | NewCovenant7777 | 143434 | ||
First, permit me to share that Belief and Faith aren't synonymous contrary to popular teaching and belief. Scripture says even the demons "believe"(James 2:19). Scripture also says "anything not of faith is sin"(Rom 14:23). *Notice it doesn't say "anything not of belief". So this begs the question what is the difference between faith and belief from God's perspective/Truth? The answer is Faith is Christ literally flowing through the crucified soul of a True Believer. Meaning a soul can believe in Jesus, that He is God, that He died on The Cross, and that He can forgive their sins and grant them eternal life, etc...but if that soul hasn't been granted "true repentance" which is Christ flowing through his/her crucified soul, their "believing" is in vain. Scripture is clear "Many will say Lord, Lord...", but Jesus will say "He never knew them." Obviously, these "Many" believed in Jesus, but didn't have faith. Also, Important to note that without question all the Israelites that were delivered out of Egypt "believed in the God that delivered them", but only a few had faith. Again, Christ is Faith Personified. Faith doesn't come from man and when a soul has "true faith" he or she will not sow or reap in the Mammon System (the seen), but will rather by faith (Christ flowing...), sow and reap in New Jerusalem (the Unseen/Far Away Land that all True Believers long for, and by faith, live in while on earth...Heb 11 and the entire Bible support this...). ***Now it is important to note that an Infant Christian due to his or her doublemindedness will try to sow and reap in the Mammon System, but he or she will receive the discipline of God (by cooperating with the crucifixion process...) and through sanctification and transformation be transitioned out of sowing and reaping in the Mammmon System. ***It is also important to note that "To find your life is to lose it and to lose your life is to find it." (Matt 10:39) I cite this verse because if a soul sees no error in them sowing and reaping in the Mammon System (the seen world) he or she has found his or her life and isn't born again. A True Child of God will not be a tower builder in the name of Jesus and will not claim that the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob sows or reaps in the Mammon System. ***The Parable of the Talents shows this clearly. The Wicked Servant buried his talent in the ground. The ground represents the Mammon System and it is VERY IMPORTANT to note that the Wicked Servant called God a Hard God because he knew that God didn't sow or reap in the Mammon System. Rom 10 and 2Tim 3 also identify these "Apostate Souls" as souls that have a zeal 4 God, but deny the power there of. So in conclusion, sad to say, as Scripture says "many are called, but few are chosen", and this paints a bleak, but a scripturally consistent picture that there are "many" that believe, but only a "few" that have faith.(Christ flowing producing "true works of repentance" Image of Vine and Body of Christ/True Church.) Now with respect to Baptism. Baptism is simply a physical symbolic act that represents what only the Holy Spirit does...The immersion into water of a "hopefully converted soul" reflects the truth that when we are in Christ, we are buried into "New Jerusalem Soil" and dead to "Mammon System Soil". It is Christ that produces "works of repentance" through our new creation souls. An unredeemed soul can't produce "works of repentance"; It is impossible. Now of course, sadly and deceptively, an unredeemed soul "can appear" to produce "good works", but they are a counterfeit if Christ isn't literally producing the fruit. And a "tell tale sign" that indeed Christ is flowing through a soul is that the world is becoming increasingly dim and that the soul has little to no interest in building and/or finding his/her life in the Mammon System(the seen world). ***The Delusion God sends, as mentioned in 2Thes 2:11, is that He does sow and reap in the Mammon System(also false miracles and healings). Apostates believe the lie and as a result make the Bible, Jesus, and The Cross into Idols to inspire them in their rebellion/tower building and sadly they do this in Jesus' name. Scripture is clear to love the world is to hate God. Let there be no confusion or twisting of Scripture in this regard. If a souls seeks and claims that God sows and reaps in the Mammon System (the world/the seen) he or she is "more than likely" not born again. The only hope would be that the soul is an Infant, but even an Infant will know, although it will not be totally clear that his or her God/Jesus doesn't sow or reap in the Mammon System. So for a soul to be baptized without Christ literally flowing through their crucified soul is just simply a soul getting wet. Their baptism was in vain...I say this with sorrow... There is much more Christ could share through me on this subject, but time and space will not permit... |
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2 | Saved by belief or belief and baptism? | NT general Archive 1 | lionheart | 143442 | ||
NewCovenant7777,be careful when you say faith and belief are not synonymous. Depending on the greek usage they very well can be.The greek word pistis is used on several occasions for the words believe,belief,faith, usage and context become very important in cases like this. In Christ, lionheart |
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3 | Saved by belief or belief and baptism? | NT general Archive 1 | NewCovenant7777 | 143449 | ||
Greetings Lionheart, yes, you are correct, I should have made that more clear...although actually your point is exactly my point. Belief can be used in the context of "knowing something to be true/as a fact", and belief in this context isn't "true faith". Romans 1 makes it clear every soul knows there is a God and what is His Will (For HIM to come live in and through their crucified soul.) True faith, as The Holy Spirit has revealed to me, is Christ literally flowing through a born again and crucified soul(which is the "He is the Substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not yet seen/Heb 11). Many "Professing Christians" are under the false impression (deceived by their own hearts and the angel of light/Satan) that because they believe in Jesus and what He did on the Cross for them they are saved. This simply isn't true and furthermore the whole concept of the "sinner's prayer and asking Jesus into one's heart is not Scriptural. Romans 3 makes it clear "no one seeks God", and John 3 (also refer to Romans 9) shows how a soul is born again, and there is no mention of a prayer and it takes a quantum leap to try to rationalize the saying of a prayer is equivalent to what John 3 or Rom 9 say... Also, Jesus never led anyone in a "sinner's prayer" and never gave anyone the opportunity to "ask HIM into their heart." Scripture is clear that no one cometh unto The Father, but the Spirit draweth them (John 6:44, again no mention of a prayer). Also, "Professing Christians love to quote, "Jesus is the way...", however again just "believing" this wont save you...***Jesus was crucified, by the way... If a soul says they believe, but there is no "true repentance" which is what "true faith" is.. that soul hasn't "believed unto salvation/doesn't have saving faith". "The Works" James speaks of that proves one's faith are "works of repentance" which are done in the seen (the mammon system), BUT it is Christ, who is seated in the heavenlies, that literally produces these works of repentance (which are from above in New Jerusalem). Faith isn't finding one's life (Matt 10:39) and/or building in the mammon system/that which is seen (THIS IS REBELLION)...and this is the Delusion (2Thes 2:11) and Lie that is propagated in American Churches and Apostates Churches around the world...all Denominationalism Teachings are based on Scripture (which is the deception), however the "teachers and followers" of these "demon-nations" are guilty of Rom 10:2 and 2Tim 3:5...they have a zeal for God, but deny the power there of... The most common phrase in the Apostate Church today is that "I soooo appreciate what Jesus did on the Cross, and love God sooooooooo much, I want to live 4 HIM". A Holy God doesn't need evil man to "anything 4 HIM". Christ lives out the 5 Offices and 16 Gifts through crucified souls who have entered His Sabbath Rest and have ceased from "their works/doing things 4 God". (which is what true faith is...just "believing" in Jesus doesn't produce works of repentance which is all that the Father accepts. Abel gave the best of his herds, but Cain only gave "some" of his crops. Cain is the first "Earthly Apostate", but of course Lucifer was/is the Pioneer of Rebellion/Apostasy. True Belief, Faith, and Repentance are synonymous...they are Christ granting us repentance (which is an Image of us being granted land/foundation in New Jersualem)and when this happens He will turn us from everything of this world. If, we like Cain, only give "some" and think we can ask Jesus into our heart, we are deceived. By the way Cain, I am sure you would agree "believed in God" (He talked to HIM), but He didn't have faith because He refused to let Christ reign in His Soul and a result Cain was a restless wanderer as are "many professing Christians". I could say much more, but space won't permit. Thanks 4 your response and hope to hear from you again... |
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4 | Saved by belief or belief and baptism? | NT general Archive 1 | lionheart | 143456 | ||
Faith,belief in the biblical sense have nothing to do with mental assent and everything to do with repentance and the actions reflective of an actual faith in God. Good hearing from you. lionheart |
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5 | Saved by belief or belief and baptism? | NT general Archive 1 | NewCovenant7777 | 143466 | ||
Greetings Lionheart, What you say is true, however to the darkened mind there is no understanding of what "true faith and belief" are. True Repentance isn't going from the left(obvious sin) to right (human morality)as the Apostate Church teaches. Human morality is the height of evil and is the same error that lucifer was guilty of (trying to be like God/Jesus/Christ). True Repentance is being buried to "all" the deeds of the flesh, "good and bad". As Isaiah said, "our good works are dirty rags in God's sight." Only Jesus is Good as He explained to the Rich Young Ruler, and only He (Jesus) that fulfilled the Law, can obey the law, and only Jesus (the Living Word of God) can live the Word through our crucified souls. James also made the distinction between believing and faith. That is why He said "even the demons believe". He went on to say, "show me your faith without thy works, and I will show thee my faith by my works." These people he was speaking to weren't slothful unemployed souls and I am confident all of them "believed" in God and "had faith" in what "they were doing" and in the god they were doing it for... He was making the distinction here, as is Christ through me, that if Christ, who is Faith Personified, isn't literally producing the "good works of repentance", then as far as God is concerned no matter "how seemingly good or how hard the person works even to the point of human morality, ethics, and values it counts for nothing. (The flesh counts for nothing/Phil 3, John 6 and John 15). Scripture is clear you can't serve God and Mammmon. God is New Jerusalem...now this may seem odd, but New Jerusalem is part of Heaven, right? ...and God is there, right? ...and Jesus is seated in Heaven, right? ...and "all good things" come from Heaven above, right? Furthermore, with respect to the mammon system, A satan is the prince of the air(mammon system), right? And the flesh is against the spirit and the spirit is against the flesh, right? The problem is Apostates sow and reap in the mammon system in which satan is the prince. Scripture says, "the just shall walk by faith, not by sight, right? Jesus said, "where your treasure is, your heart will be also", right? The Wicked Servant was a Servant, right? But his sin was that He buried his talent in the ground (the mammon system/the seen world). There is not one True Christian in Scripture that was a part of his/her culture, yet American Christians are not only part of it, but they are rulers in it. Jesus, nor the disciples, nor any of the 1st Century Churches were a part of the culture in which they lived. On the other hand, the Pharisees were, and you know the dialogue Jesus had with them (John). I sumbit to you that just as the Physical Jews claimed to know God and that Abraham was their Father...the Apostate Church is guilty of the exact same thing...they claim to know God and that Jesus is their Lord, but as Scripture says, they praise me with their lips, but their heart is far from me, and they think they will be heard for their many words, and they give of their abundance... Just as were the Pharisees and Physical Jews liars, and story tellers, so are The False Teachers (Demonationalism and Cults) and Apostate Christians. The Physical Jews sought to obey the law in their own strength and the Apostate Christians seek to obey not only the Law, but to live the Word in their own strength. And again this is what Romans 10:2 and 2Tim 3 says. Apostate Christians are deceieved into thinking "well, we are Christians we have faith in Jesus, etc...we aren't anything like the Pharisees", etc...but they are self deceived because they are guilty of the exact same thing...only difference is they use the entire bible where as the Physical Jews just used and use the Old Testament. ...Continued on "Proceeding Note"... |
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