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1 | Saved by belief or belief and baptism? | NT general Archive 1 | bslinker | 37784 | ||
Yes that is correct. Passages to consider when noting passages concerning salvation. In order: 1. "Hear"(the word): Rom 10:17 2. "Believe": Mark 16:16; Acts 16:31 3. "Confession": Rom 10:10 4. "Repent": Acts 2:38 Luke 13:3,5 5. "Baptize": Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38, 1Pet 3:21 Its what is commonly refered to as the "5 Steps to Salvation". But there is actually one step that alot of people forget and that is what is our responsibility as a christian after we do this. I hear the question all the time: "...is that all we have to do?" The answer to that question is "No". Jesus said this in Rev 2:10 "... live faithfully until death, and I will give you the crown of life". So we are told right there that our christian walk doesn't stop after baptism. That is only the start of our new life as a christian, and we are to remain "faithful" for the remainder of our life if we want that "crown of life". I hope this helps, any questions let me know. Thanks! Barry |
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2 | Saved by belief or belief and baptism? | NT general Archive 1 | DarcyA | 100914 | ||
The verse that people who say you must be baptized by water to be saved in Mark 16:16 Havn't read the whole verse Mark 16:16 "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned. Read the end of the Verse. It does not say that who is not baptized will be condemned. I have also have not seen Acts 10 explained. Acts 2:38 Look who is saying what was said. Peter was. Acts is a history of the church. Luke wrote what was said. Peter speaking is not nessarily absolute truth. It is True that Peter said those words though. But it doesn't mean that God breathed those words into him. One of the two baptisms has to be a type. Either the water or the Baptism by the Holy Spirit into Jesus Christ. Peter in 1peter 3 states that water is a type. We are saved by Grace through fiath not by works lest any man shall boast. I don't see how baptism by water is not a work. Also the thief on the cross. Baptism to be saved people always say thats old testament. They can't prove that they are assuming the thief died first. When Jesus said it is finished....I believe thats when the New Covenant starts offically. Also no one is saved any other way but by faith. Old Testament or New testament. I like to say people in the old testament had salvation on layaway waiting for the Messiah to pay the price. They looked ahead to the cross we look back to the cross. |
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3 | Saved by belief or belief and baptism? | NT general Archive 1 | waltherpp32 | 100918 | ||
My 2 cents. I strongly and whole heartedly affirm that baptism is necesary. No, Mark 16:16 does not list the consequences of not being baptized. But let me ask... in order to have a proper command must one list also the consequence good and bad? NO! It is a command how ever inclusive or not... it is a command. My views: I see baptism as my opertunity to show faith. After all "show me your faith without your works and i will show you my faith by my works" Any body want to tell me who's quote that is? look it up. Baptism is necesary. |
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4 | Is obedience to every command necessary? | NT general Archive 1 | Morant61 | 100938 | ||
Greetings Walterpp22! Baptism is definitely commanded, but what about all of the other commands in Scripture? By the reasoning you have advanced, obedience to every single command would be necessary for salvation. In which case, we are back to being saved by works, which Scripture specifically says can't be done. :-) It is important when discussing this topic that we distinguish what one means by 'necessary'. If by 'necessary', one means 'required for salvation', then one is contradicting Eph. 2:8-10. If by 'necessary', one means 'a command which ought to be obeyed because one is already saved', then I would agree that baptism is necessary! :-) p.s. - Your quote is from James! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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5 | Is obedience to every command necessary? | NT general Archive 1 | waltherpp32 | 100944 | ||
a shady point for sure. at which point one truly is saved is a much debated point. wether it is at the point of baptism or what. either way, i do not view it as a work to salvation, i.e. the O.T. sacrifices but as an act of obedience as to say "yes lord, i believe" none the less - necesary. even christ was baptized (of john) but for our example. and you nabbed my quote indeed! that was the good brother james in 2:18. to make the point even more shady... check this out: mark 9:39 - 40 so who's way is right? christ's way. and we can only strive for that way. as he said him self no one will know the father except the son reveal him to him. |
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